Copper jacket fouling or rust? New 454 Super Redhawk

PushrodV8 · Dec 9, 2017

I just picked up a new Ruger Super Redhawk Alaskan in 454. It was purchased from buds. I checked it out at my FFL, function checked fine, everything look good to go. I have been swamped with work so I got home put it in the safe and only today really got to clean and look at it.

Is this barrel suffering from copper jacket fouling from test firing it? Was this possible USED gun? Or am I hit with a new gun, which I haven't fired, that is rusting inside?

Thanks for your time!
Rob

Mizar · Dec 9, 2017

Looks like copper/brass fouling to me. And I believe that Ruger still test fires all of their handguns.

MidRoad · Dec 9, 2017

Put some solvent in it and see if the patch turns green?

edwardware · Dec 9, 2017

Looks exactly like jacket fouling to me. You'll want a good copper solvent if you're going to run jacketed. . .

rdstrain49 · Dec 9, 2017

Bones741 said:
Put some solvent in it and see if the patch turns green?

PushrodV8 · Dec 9, 2017

Yeah I went ahead and ordered Montana X-Treme 7035 Copper Killer Solvent from amazon. I appreciate the help, it looked like rust at first and being a relatively expensive revolver had to make sure it was just fouling lol

strangelittleman · Dec 10, 2017

It's just copper from the factory test firing. No big deal, now you know it goes "BANG!".

Master Blaster · Dec 10, 2017

So at the factory they would have fired 6 rounds maybe 12 at the most. That is a lot of fouling for a few rounds. I would check the roughness of the machining of your rifling. If you notice excessive copper (or lead) after you have shot 50-100 rounds you may want to contact Ruger. Otherwise maybe its just your photo and the copper fouling is normal. Good shooting with your new gun. Shoot it a bunch and see how it shoots.

CraigC · Dec 10, 2017

Just shoot it.

Zaydok Allen · Dec 10, 2017

Fouling. Shoot it and then clean it.

strangelittleman · Dec 10, 2017

Less typing, more shooting, it's not a 320, it's not going to go off by it's self....get behind the trigggaaaa!

Coal Dragger · Dec 10, 2017

Keep shooting it. Cleaning is optional. The barrel will let you know when it is too fouled to shoot well.

Or just clean it because you can’t stand a dirty revolver.

Either way that is jacket fouling not rust, so no worries.

ArchAngelCD · Dec 11, 2017

Master Blaster said:
So at the factory they would have fired 6 rounds maybe 12 at the most. That is a lot of fouling for a few rounds. I would check the roughness of the machining of your rifling. If you notice excessive copper (or lead) after you have shot 50-100 rounds you may want to contact Ruger. Otherwise maybe its just your photo and the copper fouling is normal. Good shooting with your new gun. Shoot it a bunch and see how it shoots.

6 or 12 rounds, not likely. I'm not sure about Ruger but S&W will fire only 2 to 3 rounds in their revolvers depending upon the capacity. I can't see Ruger firing more.

PushrodV8 · Dec 12, 2017

Thanks for all the responses. I am going to do the most important thing and just shoot the thing first. Need to find some decent ammo to shoot, might grab some buffalo bore.

rdstrain49 · Dec 12, 2017

If you want to remove the copper fouling, that is what is shown in your picture, get some "Sweet's 7.62 Solvent". Follow the instructions to the letter. Generally, two applications and the fouling should be gone.

Regarding comments about a rough bore, that is rather common now, the rough bore not the comment. Simply get some JB bore cleaner, apply to a tight patch on a spear point jag. In a clean bore, run the JB back and forth, I make ten passes, reapply and repeat. I'll do that three or four times. Go shoot, do it again. In short order your bore will be smooth as a babies back side. You will be able to tell when the bore is smooth by the easy with which you are able to clean the bore. Best of luck.

farm23 · Dec 12, 2017

Are we talking about a new or a used gun. Cooper fouling from 2 or 3 shoots? Come on!

rdstrain49 · Dec 13, 2017

Absolutely, you can easily have copper fouling from only one shot. Especially in a new barrel.

farm23 · Dec 13, 2017

If copper fouling is so easy do all new Ruger's have fouling or is this condition only found in a 454?

Cump · Dec 13, 2017

Maybe we should distinguish between excessive copper fouling, build-up and residue.
It seems pretty normal to me.

MidRoad · Dec 13, 2017

Immediatly cease use of that gun. Send it to me and will do a safety inspection. It may take a few years and a few hundred rounds,but you can rest assure it will be safe to use when the inspection is complete. I will not charge,and will even pay the shipping.what can i say I'm in the holiday spirit. :evil:

PushrodV8 · Dec 13, 2017

Bones741 said:
Immediatly cease use of that gun. Send it to me and will do a safety inspection. It may take a few years and a few hundred rounds,but you can rest assure it will be safe to use when the inspection is complete. I will not charge,and will even pay the shipping.what can i say I'm in the holiday spirit.

Damn gentlemanly of you sir

rdstrain49 said:
If you want to remove the copper fouling, that is what is shown in your picture, get some "Sweet's 7.62 Solvent". Follow the instructions to the letter. Generally, two applications and the fouling should be gone.

Regarding comments about a rough bore, that is rather common now, the rough bore not the comment. Simply get some JB bore cleaner, apply to a tight patch on a spear point jag. In a clean bore, run the JB back and forth, I make ten passes, reapply and repeat. I'll do that three or four times. Go shoot, do it again. In short order your bore will be smooth as a babies back side. You will be able to tell when the bore is smooth by the easy with which you are able to clean the bore. Best of luck.

Thank you!

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