Rifle cleaning rod length?

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I use jags a couple sizes smaller than the bore and use big patches to create a tight fit in the bore. I personally rarely clean with anything other than boreslick foaming bore cleaner. Foam the bore, wait 10 minutes, push it out with a tight patch on a jag, follow with an oiled patch and done. The only thing I brush is my cast bullet guns.
 
bronze bore brushes- oversize or mismarked diameters may make it almost impossible to withdraw or push it through the rifles bore.

I opened a new pack of 6mm/243 bronze to use a few years ago. Started a little hard, so i pushed more. Realizing it fit to tight, tried to pull brush back. No go.

Had to push it all the way through my 27.5" 40X barrel. Bent the steel coated rod. Lucky it made it through to the muzzle.

Now i measure the diameter of both bronze & nylon brushes before using.
 
There are a bunch of ritualistic practices assorted with cleaning rifle bores and the opinion you get will depend on what works for them. Using corrosive ammunition and using firearms under less than range conditions, required a regular cleaning regimen in the military so a lot of folks adopted that as a standard practice. I have a touch of that myself. One of the reasons is that in my hobby of restoring old rifles, I encounter a lot of really dirty, nasty pitted bores, with hardened cosmolene, and other really obnoxious leftovers from the barrel's military history. Sometimes these shoot surprisingly well but foul quickly-thus necessitating cleaning. I have probably tried most techniques for cleaning from one time to another including electrolysis and I have found that most of them will work but some are more difficult and harder on bores than others.

I suspect though that most firearms with good bores (absent poor conditions, troubled bores, special uses, or firing corrosive ammo) are probably damaged more from excessive cleaning than they benefit. A lot folks probably could get by primarily using the new foaming bore cleaners followed by a quick patch or (gasp) a boresnake run through the barrel, and a quick wipedown with an oily rag, and not suffer for it.

That being said, these are my humble opinions for general cleaning, use a rod sized close to the bore size, don't use a jointed rod except in the field or emergency conditions, clean the rod on a regular basis whether it is carbon fiber, brass, aluminium, or stainless steel. Length depends on whether you clean from the chamber or the bore--cleaning from the bore does not need as long a rod as cleaning from the back of the action will. Either method will work but you need to spend a bit more and get protectors for either the crown if cleaning from the bore or the chamber if cleaning from the rear of the action. Use good quality patches sized for the bore as a finish-cheap ones are fine for solvent use. Throw away out of spec as 243winxb mentioned and also quit using worn bore brushes--these are expendables. Clean your bore brushes from time to time or get rid of them if they become really dirty. Jags seem to clean a bit better for me than loops but to each his own on these. Oh, and buy yourself some brass rods sized close to the bores of your rifles. These come in handy if you need to dislodge bore obstructions cause by sticking cleaning items in the bore or other things like bullets.

One other thing, cleaning is easier if you put the rifle in a cleaning vise that is firmly attached. You can make your own if you are handy with wood working using scraps from Home Depot and the like.
 
Discussions of barrel cleaning methods and equipment are always interesting and usually informative. The little I can add to this discussion include the following: Buy a longer rod than you think you will need, and buy two of them. My personal rods are up to 48" overall with 42" rod. Polished stainless steel. Buy rod diameter to match bore size and additional rods for different caliber sizes, a proper rod is a smart investment so don't scrimp on quality. Use one rod for a jag and the other for brush to avoid switching back and forth. Best jags are not attachments, but part of the rods, as shown in attached photo. You can do this yourself or custom order from Ivy Rods. In recent times gun shops have started carrying better rods, especially polished steel, which is an improvement, but still not the best. Same with brushes, the best being from specialty firms catering to target/benchrest shooters. Pay attention to density, evenness and core of brush. Good ones are dense and have twisted brass wire cores, as shown in photo. Take good care of rods, same as your guns. I keep mine on a rack as shown, or in protective tubes when traveling. Beware bore guides, as guides that don't align the rod accurately can do more harm than good. So select and buy with the same care as buying a rod. There are no cheap ones. Jags.JPG Jags2.JPG
 
Much has been modified, but the bottom line is that with the aluminum bedding blocks in common use nowadays some of the processes (M40A1 Manual) described in semi-biblical form may not be that relevant. (yup pure sacrilege) Have Lucas bore guides gone out of fashion? But then again, many that haven't lived by the M40A1 manual don't know why it's prescribed that you continue to clean your bore for three days following use?
Sorry if I sounded snarky, just regurgitating the info pounded into an Old Squid by a Marine Gunny that thought I had no real reason to be on His firing line!
 
Mr. M119LR, you rang the bell with the mention of Lucas bore guides. For many years they were the Gold Standard of bore guides and Mike Lucas was always pleasant to deal with, as well as miking other top quality shooting accessories. (I still use a Lucas arbor press.) I hope he is still in business. In recent times, the go-to bore guide was the Barrel Saver, by T.K. Jackson. At $two bills each they were a bit pricey but worth the money, but he stopped making them first of year. Glad I bought a supply when I could. I hope someone else picks up with something similar, or there is a hole in the market because there is a demand for the right stuff.
 
What you guys think of Dewy or Proshot rods? I can get these locally.
I use both Dewey and Tipton in assorted lengths and caliber sizes from .17 Cal to 30 Cal. The Tipton has a better handle in my opinion but they both work just fine. Get a good set of jags and use good quality patches. Also a good brass loop for the rod you choose. As to length? Just do as suggested and measure muzzle crown to the back of the receiver. Then allow an inch or two. Obviously longer is better than too short. :) Also a good bore guide is a nice to have.

Ron
 
What bore guides would you guys recommend? I see possum hollow have good reviews for keeping stuff out of the chamber.
 
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