The days of sniffing the dirt ain't over.

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There I was, prone behind my .308 Milspec with 175 gr SMK M118 at the 300 line glassing the NRA-Bullseye target, when the batteries gave out on my 4500 NV Kretrel. Dust & loose paper where blowing across the range from the 3 O'clock to 9 O'clock position, at the 100 line the piece of yarn was at roughly a 50 degree angle. How many inches of Kentucky windage did I need? Wind direction was pretty easy, but what was the wind speed?
 
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So using the rough angle of the yarn at the 100 range, I divided by 4 and got 12.5 mph. The visual conditions pretty much matched up so I used my come up chart. @300 Full value 12 mph 6.5 inches, now all I needed to do was move the center of the cross hairs to the ring on the target that would be roughly 6.5 inches from the X and send it. No problem. Who needs batteries when you can still sniff the dirt to estimate wind speed?
 
Angle of yarn divided by 4 = mph.

I've heard of observing flags for wind speed, and I'm sure there is a chart for wind socks at airports. Isn't the internet wonderful for sharing stuff?
 
Food for thought, how do you improve the odds of scoring a hit?
Without the 6 1/2 inch adjustment at 300, if I was Deer hunting at the same distance without an MOA rifle, I might have easily missed a 10 inch circle.
 
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M118LR said:
Food for thought, how do you improve the odds of scoring a hit?
Without the 6 1/2 inch adjustment at 300, if I was Deer hunting at the same distance with an MOA rifle, I might have easily missed a 10 inch circle.
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Collecting information on that rifle. It’s good to know when the ol kestrel goes out how to manually make adjustments.
The idea is to make documentation with your instrument, since kestrel can be pretty close to exact and write it down. That includes head/tail wind and and speed. Calculate deviation and document. It’s a long process but, it works, over time the data collected will help with critical thinking for when said instrument fails.

If no data provided and there is a NEED for a shot, there are plenty of wind formulas specific with m118LR that can get you minute of man
 
QUOTE="Danoobie, post: 10821241, member: 245563"]If I sniff the wind, I can look down and see the dirt ain't movin'...[/QUOTE]

Makes life simple.

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What distance are we glassing?

Wrong answers are really penalized. JMHO.

Yup ontarget, It sounds like I might have done this before!

Ain't any wind stirring, notice that nobody is stirring up any dust with thier footfalls.

Any guesses on the parameters of this shot????

This is real sniffing the dirt stuff. LOL
Looks like the batteries in the range finder failed also. LOL LOL
 
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jrmiddleton425 said:
700 yards plus or minus 20...wind less than 5 miles per hour.
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WOW, clean miss without any wind considerations.
Take a little time to study manual Mildot training and try again!
It ain't like I asked how you were going to adjust your turrets from which documented ZERO that was on your COME UP LOG. Or what Kentucky Windage you where going to use from a known Documented COME UP Log entry.

Am I giving to much of this away? Let's just say that folks in the glass are 6 foot tall.

The 72 inch Target is only 5 Mildot's tall.

1 Mildot at 100 yards is only 3.6 inches.

But I Honestly Thank You Personally jrmiddleton425 for your honest response. You are part of the majority. It is my intention to enlighten you enough to make you part of the minority. Just my intention. JMHO
 
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Does this thread actually have some meaning or is this some sort of chest beating, internet tomfoolery? I ask because I don't understand?

Someone is sniffing something and it sure aint the dirt! :)
 
ohihunter2014 said:
Does this thread actually have some meaning or is this some sort of chest beating, internet tomfoolery? I ask because I don't understand?

Someone is sniffing something and it sure aint the dirt! :)
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Like all conceptual Training Evolution's, those that have never actually experienced the questions from behind the butt of a rifle want to call such experience "Chest Beating". But those that actually have to decipher shooting solutions and live because of the summations that they have derived don't acquiesce to your definition of "TOMFOOLERY".

So prior to me asking these Hypothetical Questions, at what distance is the target that you might need to send a round after, are you shooting ohihunter2014? It's only "TOMFOOLERY" if your and others lives are not dependent it. JMHO.

After you correctly answer the simplest of distance questions, perhaps you wouldn't call it "Chest Beating" you might even call it training,if it enables another to be able to duplicate this simplest of tasks. But it's easy to type actual accomplishments and label them as "TOMFOOLERY" but only keyboard commando's give BRAVADO's to your answer less questioning.

So if you are not beating your chest with your serious lack of knowledge, Please Correctly answer the question asked in training, prior to showing your lack of experience for the entire internet to see. JMHO.
 
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I also think 400 yards is correct distance. The trees behind the wall look to be being blowing to the left (hard to tell from a still shot) but they also look to be quite thin and flexible. So I'm going to say 5 inches to the right, for Kentucky windage, based on what I'll assume is around a 5 mph wind.

Let me know how badly I missed.
 
Looks like 300 yards and a 10 to maybe 15 mph wind coming from right to left. Hard to tell on a random interwebs pic.
 
Brain fart...I thought too much. Estimate a six-foot tall man.

(2x1000)/4 (estimated mils tall)
500 yards
Is my math right this time?
 
M118LR said:
Like all conceptual Training Evolution's, those that have never actually experienced the questions from behind the butt of a rifle want to call such experience "Chest Beating". But those that actually have to decipher shooting solutions and live because of the summations that they have derived don't acquiesce to your definition of "TOMFOOLERY".

So prior to me asking these Hypothetical Questions, at what distance is the target that you might need to send a round after, are you shooting ohihunter2014? It's only "TOMFOOLERY" if your and others lives are not dependent it. JMHO.

After you correctly answer the simplest of distance questions, perhaps you wouldn't call it "Chest Beating" you might even call it training,if it enables another to be able to duplicate this simplest of tasks. But it's easy to type actual accomplishments and label them as "TOMFOOLERY" but only keyboard commando's give BRAVADO's to your answer less questioning.

So if you are not beating your chest with your serious lack of knowledge, Please Correctly answer the question asked in training, prior to showing your lack of experience for the entire internet to see. JMHO.
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Nah, I'm good. :)
 
ohihunter2014 said:
You guys know something I don't? We going to war with Iraq again? Just trying to figure out why we need desert sniper training?
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I thought the whole point of THR was to share information. Many shooters here use mil dot scopes, and may benefit from some hypothetical training. My guess is that a very large percentage of shooters using mil dot optics have no clue how to properly make use of them. That's just my guess.
 
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