S&W frame variations?

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I was reading an article describing the modifications on the model 10 since I picked one up yesterday, and ran across a reference to the heavy barrels having a slightly different frame than standard barrels. I also understand the varying number of screws on the side plate modified the frames a bit. So how many variations on the basic frames are there?
 
If you are referring to the dash numbers, model 10-3, 10-4 for example, they weren't always a frame variation. They are engineering changes to the model. One of the changes S&W revolvers went through was reversing the direction of the threads on the ejector rod. Another change was moving the gas ring from the yoke to the cylinder. Those changes would not have involved the frame.
There is no firm number of changes as it varies from model to model. The oldest models will generally have more changes. Many stainless steel models like the 64,65,66,67 weren't introduced until around 1970. Since these are just stainless versions of models introduced in the 50s, they were first produced with many of those changes implemented from the start. The current model 10 is a 10-14 I believe but the model 64 which is the same gun except in stainless steel is a 64-8 because it was introduced after many of the changes had already been made.
The main frame changes would probably have been going from a 5 screw system, to 4 screws then eventually 3 screws, and then there was a major change in the shape of the frame when they went to the transfer bar firing system and implemented the in frame lock.
The model 28 only went through 4 changes between introduction in 1955 and being discontinued in 1986. One change was reversing thread direction on the ejector which had no effect to the frame.
 
Do you want to think about other variations on the K frame?
M11 .38 S&W, M12 Airweight, M13 Magnum.
M14-15 gets you adjustable sight .38s, M16 a .32, M17-18 .22s, M19 Magnum.
M45 fixed sight .22, M48 .22 Magnum, M53 .22 Jet.
Phew.
 
A72BDA9D-4EDC-45F9-93E2-5C752787BEEC.png You folks are all talking variations on an assembled gun, but the article that I was reading indicated that there was a slight difference between the actual raw frame on K frames of the same era with the slight difference being made to accommodate a heavy barrel. Same or similar verbiage got to Wikipedia, see screenshot above... (See reference above for 10-1) Then looking at the model 10 variations list it seemed to support this as changes were made in quick succession in pairs and referenced heavy barrel and standard barrel. That had me looking to see what exactly was different, and so far I have not found an answer. My presumption is that the article was wrong OR that if there is indeed a difference then it is in the contouring so that a heavy barrel frame contours well to the thicker barrel profile.
 
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I remember reading along time ago that the frame of the 357 Magnum Model 19 was slightly longer in the area that supports the barrel than on a standard K frame.

Can't say that I have ever noticed the difference.

Maybe I'll get a ruler out tomorrow and see if there is any difference.

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WestKentucky

My presumption is that the article was wrong OR that if there is indeed a difference then it is in the contouring so that a heavy barrel frame contours well to the thicker barrel profile.

That would be my thought as well; that the shape of the frame was altered slightly (maybe on the top strap where the barrel goes into the frame), to allow for the wider dimensions of the heavy barrel.
 
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I find three different topstrap to barrel rib contours on guns in house. Probably others in history from around 1950 when they match weighted all three Masterpiece revolvers.
 
Sometime in the 1990s, S&W stretched the 38 caliber J-frame to accommodate the 357 Magnum cartridge. To date, all 38 caliber J-frames made after that time have the longer frame.

I forget if the 22 or 32 caliber J-frames have the stretched frame. I've slept some since I may have made the comparison.
 
Sometime in the 1990s, S&W stretched the 38 caliber J-frame to accommodate the 357 Magnum cartridge. To date, all 38 caliber J-frames made after that time have the longer frame.

I forget if the 22 or 32 caliber J-frames have the stretched frame. I've slept some since I may have made the comparison.
Sensibly they should because S&W wouldn’t want to handicap themselves in production by having more specific production parts when they could VERY easily streamline the processes which supply the frames...sourcing raw frames, machine finishing them etc... I would be amazed if they did not change the entire frame supply to match the changes made to .357
 
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