Kimber82G Vs CZ455 -- Airforce Vs Marine -- 100 Yard 10 Shot Groups

I have a Kimber 82 Classic. The CZ has a long row to hoe. And I am a huge fan of CZ .

We will see. My 82 is 34 years old now. Seeing if the CZ can match it will be something I very much look forward to. Regardless it's good to see some of these old guns matched up with newer ones. I wish there was more of this. Some of the older guns can still very much hold their own.

HA! Showing up the CHAIR FORCE one more time ! !

I have an 82 Govt’, that rifle is stupid accurate. It can give an Anschutz a run for its money. Your CZ is going to have a tough time.

.....let the fur fly!

Nice groups....

Now that the kimber vs CZ part is out of the way (bench shooting), let's get to the Air force vs Marines part.

Shoot some prone, sitting, kneeling, standing groups and post the pics.

There were firing from a "chair" position. This clearly gave the Air Force and advantage.

Nice groups Sr..
However, I do believe it is no fear contest Sr..
I have to defend the CZ honors the 455 has a suppressor when the Kimber lacks of it. Those matches are great I love them.
Btw what scopes are you using.

Take off the suppressor for round two.

Finding 22 long rifle match ammo that shoots best in your rifle is a "moving target". Batches of the best ammo your rifle likes, whether Eley, Lapua, R-50, or other brand/type vary considerably, as judged by match scores and/or group size.

Fine .22LR groups depends on the way a particular brand/type and BATCH of ammo that the rifle likes. I learned when shooting Rimfire Benchrest for several years that you need to test various batches of the brand/type of ammo that the particular rifle likes the best. It's a very expensive and time-consuming process to find that brand/type/batch that shoots best, then buy as much as you can afford (or more) of that batch, unless after testing, the company sold all of it out from under you. That's NOT funny. It happened to me several times.

A competition should only be fair if each rifle is shooting ammo that has been tested and found to be best in that rifle. It may take 30 or more boxes of different brands/batches to find the best.

Cost of match ammo is not as important as how it behaves in your particular rifle. Lower cost ammo by a particular company may shoot better than the more expensive type, because your rifle happens to like it better than the test rifle at the factory did.

Although it may seem that all shooters at a match have equal opportunity, the bench drawn often makes a critical difference in scores. Wind direction/light/mirage all play a part in how a person does. I've seen over 30 wind flags pointing in many different directions and apparent velocities at the same time...and that's on a 50 yard/meter range!

Take those rifles out to a Smallbore Prone F Class match. You shoot off the group with a bipod front and sandbag rear. Shoot one in one match, and shoot the other in another match. These matches are 160 rounds, or 120 rounds, either 60/80 shots for record at 50 yards, 60/80 shots for record at 100 yards. Then compare your scores at the end of the day. If you can shoot a perfect score with either rifle on the F class target, that is a 1200 or 1600, you will be doing very well. The target is extremely difficult, about half the size of the prone with a sling target. Shoot more than one match, and you will see ammunition issues that you won't see with a ten shot group, or 20 shot group.

I have a Kimber M82G and I have bud's who have M82G's. I don't like the ergonomics of the stock, the pistol grip is too far away from the trigger for my hand, and the trigger is heavy, but if you have a good barrel the things will shoot. One bud of mine claims his M82G is more accurate than his Anschutz M64.

Did the CZ 455 shoot 2 moa? Sure doesn't look like it.

Mine is capable of 2 moa consistently.

Kimber looks like it's a tack driver.

Are you comparing a $400 CZ 455 to a $400 Kimber 82G? Why not put the CZ up against a rifle in the same price range?

That’s an awesome group for the Kimber

You see all kinds of guys spout off about “my .22 is really accurate”. That one seems to be.