Zaydok Allen
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I have seen many comments over the last few years about the groove that resides in the bottom of the trigger guard on most, if not all HK pistols. As a person squeezes the trigger, the bottom of their first knuckle can get rubbed raw by that groove. I will take a photo with better detail on this tonight.
I currently own three HK's, an HK45 with a traditional SA/Da trigger, a VP9, and a P30SK with the light LEM trigger.
The VP9 has a light pull and breaks very cleanly. I am able to shoot the gun fast and never have a problem with the groove eating my finger up.
The P30SK's LEM trigger also agrees with me. For those with no experience, there is a long, but very light and smooth take up until you hit the point of trigger break. Then it breaks very crisply. It's almost like staging a trigger on DA revolver, but with a striker like break.
Then there is the HK45 that has a traditional DA/SA trigger and safety/decocker. The single action trigger on that gun is very acceptable. It's a defensive gun so I wouldn't enter any competition with it, but for saving your life, it's just fine. The DA on the other hand is very smooth, but obnoxiously heavy. It's very safe, but leaves something to be desired. This gun DOES eat up the knuckle on my trigger finger. I believe the heavy pull causes my finger to slide down toward the bottom of the trigger guard, and then my knuckle drags through the groove. Better trigger discipline would probably help, but honestly my fingers are skinny, and keeping my trigger finger in place is a real challenge on some guns.
I know that the same model gun with two different triggers would be a preferable test, but I don't have that at my disposal, and none of my friends own HKs. I'm not trying to plug the brand or play fanboy, I just wanted to briefly bring this up. HKs have come down in price fairly drastically. My HK45 was a $1000 pistol when I bought it, and now they can be had for closer to $800. As this sort of makes them more available to folks who may not have considered them in the past, I thought a little info sharing would be good.
If you've only handled a DA/SA triggered HK, and didn't care for it, or it chewed up your knuckle when you got to shoot one, you may want to check out the VP series, but more importantly a Light LEM trigger equipped HK. You may not have the issue with the trough any longer. I've not had a singe malfunction with any of these guns, and I think a number of people pass them by simply because of this issue, and the internet talk that surrounds it.
The way I see it, I have two options on my HK45. I can either send it to Grayguns to get lightened and smoothed up, or I can order a LEM trigger for it. I want to put night sights on it also. After watching a few videos, I think I can make the change myself. I'll likely add night sights as well.
Just thought I'd share in case anyone is wondering about the differences. This is just how it seems to work for me, and you may have a different experience.
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I currently own three HK's, an HK45 with a traditional SA/Da trigger, a VP9, and a P30SK with the light LEM trigger.
The VP9 has a light pull and breaks very cleanly. I am able to shoot the gun fast and never have a problem with the groove eating my finger up.
The P30SK's LEM trigger also agrees with me. For those with no experience, there is a long, but very light and smooth take up until you hit the point of trigger break. Then it breaks very crisply. It's almost like staging a trigger on DA revolver, but with a striker like break.
Then there is the HK45 that has a traditional DA/SA trigger and safety/decocker. The single action trigger on that gun is very acceptable. It's a defensive gun so I wouldn't enter any competition with it, but for saving your life, it's just fine. The DA on the other hand is very smooth, but obnoxiously heavy. It's very safe, but leaves something to be desired. This gun DOES eat up the knuckle on my trigger finger. I believe the heavy pull causes my finger to slide down toward the bottom of the trigger guard, and then my knuckle drags through the groove. Better trigger discipline would probably help, but honestly my fingers are skinny, and keeping my trigger finger in place is a real challenge on some guns.
I know that the same model gun with two different triggers would be a preferable test, but I don't have that at my disposal, and none of my friends own HKs. I'm not trying to plug the brand or play fanboy, I just wanted to briefly bring this up. HKs have come down in price fairly drastically. My HK45 was a $1000 pistol when I bought it, and now they can be had for closer to $800. As this sort of makes them more available to folks who may not have considered them in the past, I thought a little info sharing would be good.
If you've only handled a DA/SA triggered HK, and didn't care for it, or it chewed up your knuckle when you got to shoot one, you may want to check out the VP series, but more importantly a Light LEM trigger equipped HK. You may not have the issue with the trough any longer. I've not had a singe malfunction with any of these guns, and I think a number of people pass them by simply because of this issue, and the internet talk that surrounds it.
The way I see it, I have two options on my HK45. I can either send it to Grayguns to get lightened and smoothed up, or I can order a LEM trigger for it. I want to put night sights on it also. After watching a few videos, I think I can make the change myself. I'll likely add night sights as well.
Just thought I'd share in case anyone is wondering about the differences. This is just how it seems to work for me, and you may have a different experience.
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