Fixed sights shooting too low

you would have to take the front sight down some.

Before you start filing, what sight picture are you using?

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If you decide to take a file to the front sight, let me suggest you first buy a “bore sight” to make fine tuning easier. That’s a laser pointer that slips in the chamber/barrel like a cartridge. When you lock up the action, it points to the point of impact not counting any drop over distance. For pistol zeroing distances the drop should be negligible anyway. Using one would allow you to do the file work at the house and not have to go back and forth to the shooting range until you had the adjustment really close.

I would recommend that you let some one else shoot it. Or bench rest it.

eliminate shooter errors from the equation.

also, what distance? 5 inches at 5-7 yards would suggest shooter error.

brewer12345 said:

If that does not fix it, filing down the front sight is the obvious solution?

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What sight picture are you using?

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brewer12345 said:

Closest is picture 2.

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Try picture #3 and see where your shots land.

Same topic, different firearm (Tokarov):
https://forums.gunboards.com/showth...-Tokarev-Accuracy-Issue&p=9656305#post9656305

Bullet weight can figure in to this at longer distances.

I have various small guns that do this and I just adjust my sight picture to compensate. On a SP101 I wound up painting the front sight white and then covering the top half of that sight with fluorescent red just for reference. I would never start grinding on a front sight just to make it shoot to my POA.

340PD said:

I have various small guns that do this and I just adjust my sight picture to compensate. On a SP101 I wound up painting the front sight white and then covering the top half of that sight with fluorescent red just for reference. I would never start grinding on a front sight just to make it shoot to my POA.
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Of course there is nothing wrong with that. I like my guns to be as personalized as possible, however.

What you're describing sounds like the symptom of using a pumpkin & post sight picture with a combat sighted pistol.

Have you tried seeing if it will hit POA with another sight alignment technique?

I sent my new Ruger Security 9 back to Ruger, last week. It shoots 6-8 in low at 10 yards and doesn't group well. I suppose it could be me, but I've never had that problem with any other pistol or revolver. We'll see what they say when I get it back.

Fixed sight revolvers, especially SA revolvers sometimes need to be sighted in. You may just need to change ammo for your pistol to shoot POA = POI. Try that first of course. Ammo with a heavier bullet will shoot higher than the lighter bullets. Pistols like the CZ82 usually don't need to be sighted in.

Just remember, once you sight in the gun with one weight bullet it will probably not shoot POA with other weight bullets so be sure that is the ammo you will be using most with that gun.

You might ask a gunsmith to measure the rear sight dovetail for you, or visit the CZ Forum to see if anyone there knows the dimensions. You can then get an aftermarket rear sight that is a bit higher.

Here's a link to the CZ Forum, which has a section dedicated to the CZ-82 and CZ-83. https://czfirearms.us/index.php?board=25.0

The Brownells Sight Correction Calculator will let you know just how much HIGHER you need the rear sight to go. (Click on the image to open the app. Remember, everything is done in INCHES!) That will tell you how much higher your rear sight must be (or how much to take off the front sight.) The Tech people at Brownells may know what will fit.

It may be, too, that there is a higher rear sight available for the CZ-82 or CZ-83 that can be made to work. You can get a new front sight from the source below, and file away, and have a spare for later use. https://www.buymilsurp.com/index.ph..._result&search_in_description=1&keyword=CZ-82

Try a heavier bullet to start with. You might even want to try some 124 go NATO rounds(assuming it’s a 9 here). The slightly heavier recoil will shoot higher in handguns.

Wyman

JWF II said:

Try a heavier bullet to start with. You might even want to try some 124 go NATO rounds(assuming it’s a 9 here). The slightly heavier recoil will shoot higher in handguns.

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The CZ-82 is 9mm Makarov, (9x18) and has a bullet that is .365 inches in diameter, while the standard 9mm (9x19) is .355 in diameter. The 9x19 (9mm Parabellum) round, while it is smaller in diameter, generally won't fit the magazines or chambers of 9x18 guns -- the cartridge is too long.

There's little in the way of heavier loads available for the 9x18 -- about all that's available varies from 92 gr. to 95 gr. ammo. With such a minor difference in bullet weight, you'd not be likely to see a difference in points of impact at 25 yards, even if using a rest while firing.

Getting a spare front sight (so he can grind one down a bit) or a higher rear sight will probably be the best option.

Walt Sherrill said:

The CZ-82 is 9mm Makarov, (9x18) and has a bullet that is .365 inches in diameter, while the standard 9mm (9x19) is .355 in diameter. The 9x19 (9mm Parabellum) round, while it is smaller in diameter, generally won't fit the magazines or chambers of 9x18 guns -- the cartridge is too long.

There's little in the way of heavier loads available for the 9x18 -- about all that's available varies from 92 gr. to 95 gr. ammo. With such a minor difference in bullet weight, you'd not be likely to see a difference in points of impact at 25 yards, even if using a rest while firing.

Getting a spare front sight (so he can grind one down a bit) or a higher rear sight will probably be the best option.

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Absolutely agree. I wasn’t even thinking that it was 9x18. I was thinking 9x19 and plenty of options available.

Wyman