I've fondled the APX and it is very appealing from an ergonomics and trigger perspective. I was working for Ruger when the rumors of a game-changing Glock competitor being about to be released surfaced. I managed to sneak a look at it in a big wig's office one night and was severely underwhelmed. The whole area where the grip meets the beavertail just looked poorly done and awkward...
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I apologize... I mis-read your reply. Didn't mean to sound rude. I edited my reply to answer the question.
Again... apologies.
The point I was making is that it's not just dead weight. The RAP9 has removable backstraps, a ones peice stainless chassis, Ruger reports the pistol can take a sustained a study diet of +p, and I believe it has a better barrel.. Pros and cons. With the added weight you get a stronger more robust military/duty grade pistol which is what I believe Ruger had in mind when they designed the RAP9. For a carry weapon, the SR9 would be a better choice since weight is an issue, but if you're wanting a home or range gun, the pistol version of Rugers' revolvers (something that's robust, overbuilt, and can take more abuse), and a softer shooting gun, then the RAP9 shines... With that said, seems most are more concerned about looks and apperences than anything else, and I agree, the SR9 is a lot more attractive looking.Is this a trick question? It's heavier because there's more or heavier materials used to make it. That's what makes anything heavier than something else.
No doubt they "robust" in mind; they were hoping for the XM17 Modular Handgun System contract. If I didn't have the SR9c (and since it isn't still offered) I might try out the RAP. Most likely, I'd still get the M&P.The point I was making is that it's not just dead weight. The RAP9 has removable backstraps, a ones peice stainless chassis, Ruger reports the pistol can take a sustain a study diet of +p, and I believe it has a better barrel.. Pros and cons. With the added weight you get a stronger more robust military/duty grade pistol which is what I believe Ruger had in mind when they designed the RAP9.
I certainly like the build quality of the American over the Security series which are just a bit too budget for my tastes. However, the RAP fits my hands about as well as one of those old Nokia push-to-talk brick phones fit in my back pocket.
I think that's what I ended up buying over the RAP9 if memory serves me correctly. I know I was debating between the RAP9 and something else.No doubt they "robust" in mind; they were hoping for the XM17 Modular Handgun System contract. If I didn't have the SR9c (and since it isn't still offered) I might try out the RAP. Most likely, I'd still get the M&P.
The newest, latest, greatest, and prettiest seems to be what sells nowadays. I reckon the SR9 wasn't selling that much, so Ruger made a financial decision... The LCP was cheap to produce and was a hit, so why not make a bigger LCP? Then they discontinued the LC9s Pro, and went with the cheaper to sell and produce EC9s.I forgot all about the new Security pistols, which got rave reviews from a functionality and value standpoint, but when fondled, just gave off a vibe of a very cheap and unattractive firearm.
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I give Ruger props for putting out new designs and decent pistols at an attractive price-point, but they had a winner with the SR series and should have just focused on improving the finish and refinement instead of introducing so many new crude models. They are trying to out GM, GM.
Honestly, I don't see the RAP9 lasting the test of time either. Lightweight, concealable, and good-looking seems to be what's selling nowadays to consumers, and fast production, cheaper components, and higher profits are what companies are more concerned about. Both of which is an impending death sentence for the RAP9 IMHO.
Second item down in the search results. https://ruger.com/dataProcess/APRetrofit/index.php Keep this in mind.
Actually it is quite painless process. If you can be down for about a week without the gun. No $ out of your pocket. With their prepaid box, you send in the slide/barrel/recoil spring. They'll inspect slide and replace if necessary. Replace the barrel. And you have it back in no time.Yup, but it'll be quite a while before I reach the 10k rounds mark.
The lowest I seen was around $300. I'd get one too for $250.I have a RAP9, couldn’t pass it up for $250 shipped from Palmetto. It’s a very well built fun, with quality internals for sure. The chassis is handy when doing a detailed cleaning and is robust. I shoot mine well and don’t know why others seem to think it’s not fun to shoot or horribly unergonomic. All of this coming from more of a Glock/CZ guy.
I contacted Ruger about their recall, they sent me a bag and postage paid box for the parts and I had the parts back in a weeks time. Very simple and efficient process.
with the prices one sees on these RAP’s they are definitely worth it. I’m waiting for the RAP9 compact to come back on sale at CDNN for $250 like I saw last winter during sales and I’ll pick one of those up to complement my full size.
Funny. I own a Walther P99 AS and I don't think it's an ugly pistol at all. I like the look of the Ruger American but I'm a guy that loves the look of the Remington RP9, so... Anyway the Ruger and the Remington look like built-like-tanks pistol to me. I can agree the APX is ugly...I think it is the third ugliest mainstream pistol on the market. After the Walther P99 and Beretta APX...
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How does it shoot? I have no idea. I also have no idea how good Rosie O'Donnel kisses, either.
I will get another also, at the price.The lowest I seen was around $300. I'd get one too for $250.
Funny. I own a Walther P99 AS and I don't think it's an ugly pistol at all. I like the look of the Ruger American but I'm a guy that loves the look of the Remington RP9, so... Anyway the Ruger and the Remington look like built-like-tanks pistol to me. I can agree the APX is ugly...
The lowest I seen was around $300. I'd get one too for $250.
I will get another also, at the price.
I think it is the third ugliest mainstream pistol on the market. After the Walther P99 and Beretta APX...
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How does it shoot? I have no idea. I also have no idea how good Rosie O'Donnel kisses, either.
Wow, I see what you mean about the APX. Yowza.
Wish those were mine. Those are imgur photos that belong to one of the mods over on the Beretta forum. I do plan on picking up a couple more.
Ah, someone threw in Dino as a sprucer?I'd say out of all my polymer pistols, the APX is my favorite. I love it's unique looks, and think that it's a nice looking pistol. The thing I like most about the APX, Walthers, and HKs are that they don't have the typical cookie cutter apperence that 99% of the other pistols on the market have. One thing that I noticed is that the APX seems to be more popular and is more attractive apperence wise in the European market vs the U.S. market.
Member photos from the Beretta forum... Looks go to me. YMMV. It's great that we have so many options to choose from.
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