Put your Revolver Rants here!

Status
Not open for further replies.

Electricmo

Member
Joined
Jan 20, 2020
Messages
486
We all have issues with guns or companies that produce them sometimes in our travels. Seems a lot of threads turn into bash sessions. How about we all file our complaints here and leave the other threads alone. Kinda like a endless bash session.
Here's my complaint as of today. Regardless of what people say I have found the trigger pulls on new Smith and Wessons just isn't as great as most people tell me. Rugers are worse. Nothing alittle slicking up and spring changes won't fix but why? It's the 21st century for crying out load.
 
Why is no one making a double action top break revolver? The fastest way to get some of my hard earned money would be to make a top break revolver, ready for moonclips (preferably rimless, preferable, 45 ACP or 10mm), and double action. A Webley reproduction would be very nice, but a S&W reproduction acceptable too. I would even take a modern style revolver, something completely new and ugly, that had the above features.
 
Regardless of what people say I have found the trigger pulls on new Smith and Wessons just isn't as great as most people tell me. Rugers are worse. Nothing alittle slicking up and spring changes won't fix but why? It's the 21st century for crying out load.

Three reasons.

First, cost. Precision workmanship is expensive. The American market is infamously cheap...especially the younger ones raised on plastic guns that cost $500.

Second, liability. A good trigger might be considered a liability issue. Especially on a double-action revolver. Easier to sell a fixer-upper.

Third, many of the younger shooters have never shot a pistol with a good trigger. They think a striker-fired gun has an "acceptable" trigger, know nothing else. A factory 1911 they think is outstanding...never mind that to a serious precision shooter, a factory 1911 is something you take immediately to a good gunsmith for a trigger job. The old school revolvers...the only upgrade from there in a cartridge gun is a Free Pistol.
 
My two centerfire Ruger SP101's have had horrible triggers. So did my two Taurus 22lr revolvers. Two of my four CA revolvers have had to go back to the factory. My newer S&W revolvers have cost a lot and their DA triggers have not been impressive.

My SA Ruger revolvers have been great. So have my 1980's and very early 90's Taurus revolvers. My 1970's and younger S&W revolvers have been great.

My good revolvers are the last handguns I would ever give up.

My bad ones have been passed down the road quickly.
 
Rants?

Colt goofy latches never had decent batches!

Rugers' gross weight garners this shooter's hate!

As to Smith & Wesson - please do learn a lesson... Keep the damn locks - on the factory box!

No need to bore us by ranting on Taurus.

I can't seem to limber the cash for a Kimber.



And.... Stay THE hell offa my lawn!:neener:


Todd.
 
Hmmm...

A pair of SASS Vaqueros that had such severe tooling marks upon delivery, inside and out, that the factory took them back.

A Bearcat Shopkeeper that locked up after one cylinder.

And the worst....an S&W Performance Center M627 that wouldn’t light off any variety of ammo and primers.

All within the past 10 months. Sad.

I said to hell with it and tried a new Taurus Tracker. More reliable than all the above guns combined which is sad. Fewer tooling marks and better fit than the Rugers.

Caveat: I love Ruger, especially older stuff, but they are getting sloppy on QC.
 
Why is no one making a double action top break revolver? The fastest way to get some of my hard earned money would be to make a top break revolver, ready for moonclips (preferably rimless, preferable, 45 ACP or 10mm), and double action. A Webley reproduction would be very nice, but a S&W reproduction acceptable too. I would even take a modern style revolver, something completely new and ugly, that had the above features.

I would buy one. With modern metallurgy they would be quite strong with the Webley stirrup lock.
They could base the lock-works off a modern Ruger DA, and go Webley with the break open barrel and latch.

In .45 ACP it might inspire the resumption of production of .45 auto-rim cartridges.
And an 8 shot .38 Super version could be made.
Maybe .38 Super auto-rim cartridges? (Probably not.)
 
  • Like
Reactions: mcb
Hmmm...

A pair of SASS Vaqueros that had such severe tooling marks upon delivery, inside and out, that the factory took them back.

A Bearcat Shopkeeper that locked up after one cylinder.

And the worst....an S&W Performance Center M627 that wouldn’t light off any variety of ammo and primers.

All within the past 10 months. Sad.

I said to hell with it and tried a new Taurus Tracker. More reliable than all the above guns combined which is sad. Fewer tooling marks and better fit than the Rugers.

Caveat: I love Ruger, especially older stuff, but they are getting sloppy on QC.
I had a new Ruger single ten lock up after a few rounds. Had something to do with the spring on the loading gate. Really irritating coming with a new gun. Seems there is several companies with problems.
 
I had a new Ruger single ten lock up after a few rounds. Had something to do with the spring on the loading gate. Really irritating coming with a new gun. Seems there is several companies with problems.
They all have problems. It's how they make it right that matters. Love rugers, had problems fixed quick without debate. Like s&w, had problems fixed and others ignored, frustrating . half the revolvers I've bought needed a trip back to the mothership.
 
They all have problems. It's how they make it right that matters. Love rugers, had problems fixed quick without debate. Like s&w, had problems fixed and others ignored, frustrating . half the revolvers I've bought needed a trip back to the mothership.
I have been blessed with only having 2 problem guns. Both new. They were both fixed by my local gunsmith. Guns were under warrenty but I didn't hassle with shipping. Both cheap fixes.
 
I have been blessed with only having 2 problem guns. Both new. They were both fixed by my local gunsmith. Guns were under warrenty but I didn't hassle with shipping. Both cheap fixes.
My super redhawk needed a new barrel. A Taurus had a hammer that would lock back (making unloading basically impossible) hammer would drop at random after lock up (charming problem). A 686 with a crooked barrel (wouldn't fix), 629 that shot loose twice (was fixed then sold).
 
Those triggers are a lawyer thing just like the little flipper on most autos.
That flipper/trigger thing wins most lawsuits for the Mfg.
Same reason the S&W Trigger Lock will never go away, it would lead to many more new law suits if removed.
jmo,
:)
 
Those triggers are a lawyer thing just like the little flipper on most autos.
That flipper/trigger thing wins most lawsuits for the Mfg.
Same reason the S&W Trigger Lock will never go away, it would lead to many more new law suits if removed.
jmo,
:)

No the "flipper" on the trigger is a drop safety, ask SIG about leaving that off the M17. The trigger of many striker fired guns like Glock, XDs, Sigs are not inertial balanced around its pivot pin so the blade in the trigger ensure that that trigger cannot move reward under its own inertia when dropped in some orientations.

As for the lock on the S&W revolvers, that will be there as long as the current owners (and the inventor of that internal lock) still own S&W. If S&W is ever sold to a new owner that does not have IP and royalties tied to the internal lock then maybe the lock will go away.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top