You can add Alaska to the list.

I wish we could get this message to all citizens in gun friendly states. Look at Virginia, for example. Even if a pro-2a legislation is elected, they are unlikely to reverse bad gun laws.

D.B. Cooper said:

As a warning to all those who love freedom everywhere: There is no safe place. There is no behind the lines "Green Zone." The battle is everywhere.

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Ain't that the truth.

I’ve been saying for a while Texas is also under attack. Mr. take your AR15, Robert Francis O Rourke just about won a Senate race before he admitted he is a crazy extremist. Gullible sheep almost elected him because he went by beto.

AZ is feeling it right now too.

Anchorage.... Alaska's Madison, Wisconsin or Arizona's Tucson.

Hyper concentration of pro(re)gressive nuts ruining otherwise good states.

Todd.

This bill has a long way to go and is not likely to become law. Even if it were to get beyond committee it would have to pass our strongly conservative legislature and then our even more conservative governor.

I have ever been a terrible guesser, however., and anything could happen.

jamesinalaska said:

This bill has a long way to go and is not likely to become law. Even if it were to get beyond committee it would have to pass our strongly conservative legislature and then our even more conservative governor.

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Wish i could say the same about the crap thats coming down the pipes here this year. Im guessing were about to look like Cali real quick.....

To interject an informational note here, many times (in fact most times) bills like this one are NOT thought up and introduced by the elected person. They are written and presented to the legislator by outside organizations, lobbyists, or even staff member. These bills, already professionally written, are given to sympathetic legislators to initiate into the legislatures.

To be completely honest, some of these legislators aren't awfully intelligent; they're just very popular. If you really want to expend your energies in a more useful way, start targeting the organizations who are behind the proposed legislations. START WITH YOUR LOCAL UNIONS. And be merciless.

Sigh....... this blows.

D.B. Cooper said:

I don't disagree, but these people aren't going away, either. Alaska demographics have reached the tipping point on this issue. That conservative governor of ours is just a recall vote away from being out office. In any event, we're one election away from being like Virginia. Not to mention, if this fails at the state level, nothing says it won't pass the Anchorage assembly. In fact, one need only look to Wasilla's (neighboring/next nearest city to Anchorage) proposed restrictions on new gun ranges to look into the crystal ball. (And if Wasilla turns Blue, it's game over; they're the last bastion of red in Alaska.)

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Having lived in; Minnesota, Massachusetts and California, it bears noting that these things - once put to paper - NEVER go away.

They run them through enough to get input to modify them, thereby *moderating* or becoming *reasonable* to appease the idiots and then they patiently wait for juuuuust the right incident or occurrence to allow knee-jerk, mush-mind voters to get behind it.

Make no mistake, if you hear about it, you should be afraid.... be VERY afraid!

Todd.

I have been saying 2020 election could be our "D-Day" to secure the judicial future for gun rights and 2A for some time now.

Well, looks like our D-Day has come and gun owners from all walks now must come together and stand for gun rights/2A for not only us but for our future generations.

Vote people!

And spread the word to other gun owners so the courts and the Supreme Court can overturn states' unconstitutional laws - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_judges_appointed_by_Donald_Trump

And help VA by donating to VCDL legal defense fund - https://www.gofundme.com/f/1v38qzeq9c

Godspeed.

Build the wall!

jamesinalaska

This bill has a long way to go and is not likely to become law.

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Heard that one before. Ohhhh, just as an example, try 1968.

"Everybody" agreed that the Gun Control Act's very title was unconstitutional.

But legislators are more sensitive to screaming meemies than the principles underlying the Constitution.

Same as today.

Oaths be damned, bring on the votes.

Refrain: Where, oh, where have I heard that one before?

Terry, 230RN

All of this is being funded by Michael Bloomberg and George Soros

D.B. Cooper said:

Never thought I'd see the day, but our demographics have been changing for a decade, and the city of Anchorage has been solidly blue for at least the past 6-8 years.

Three Anchorage Democrats put forward HB 62, a red flag bill, in the last session. It is currently in the House Judiciary committee.

We're a Constitutional carry, 2nd Amendment sanctuary state, yet we have a red flag bill coming up.

As a warning to all those who love freedom everywhere: There is no safe place. There is no behind the lines "Green Zone." The battle is everywhere.

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Virginia Jim said:

I wish we could get this message to all citizens in gun friendly states. Look at Virginia, for example. Even if a pro-2a legislation is elected, they are unlikely to reverse bad gun laws.

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Sadly gun owners are sharply divided about gun rights. Take a look at THR forum. It is anti-NRA, anti-open carry and supports “Red Flag”’laws (as long as it isn’t them).

What is most disturbing is how many members are willing to allow the Government to decide if they should be allowed to own a gun. It’s called Universal Background Checks.

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Yeah, I suspect <your state here> is just one mass shooting away from some form of gun control.

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The infuriating thing to me is the gullibility of the voting public to believe that any of those laws that could be enacted would have stopped any of the mass shootings that have already occurred not to mention those that haven't.

I'm in Broward County and the news has been top-filled with Parkland retrospectives today, the second anniversary of the shooting. Few people are saying that we need to make sure the systems we have in place actually work. If the systems upon which the laws depend in order to function don't work, the most brilliantly written law isn't going to accomplish it's goal.

230RN said:

Heard that one before. Ohhhh, just as an example, try 1968.

"Everybody" agreed that the Gun Control Act's very title was unconstitutional.

But legislators are more sensitive to screaming meemies than the principles underlying the Constitution.

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One of the biggest proponents of the GCA of 1968 was the NRA. Were they the screaming meemies of which you speak?

They too, have swayed with the breeze.

Back then it was thought of gun control. Now some folks think of it as automatic gun confiscation.

Do we want everyone to have the right to buy and own a gun? An 8 year old? A career violent criminal? A certified crazy? How about the ex boyfriend stalker that has violated his restraining order several times? Is allowing those folks the right to buy and own guns the only way we can guarantee our rights?

Before you get all hot and bothered......I'm not advocating one way or the other......just asking.

D.B. Cooper said:

Never thought I'd see the day, but our demographics have been changing for a decade, and the city of Anchorage has been solidly blue for at least the past 6-8 years.

Three Anchorage Democrats put forward HB 62, a red flag bill, in the last session. It is currently in the House Judiciary committee.

We're a Constitutional carry, 2nd Amendment sanctuary state, yet we have a red flag bill coming up.

As a warning to all those who love freedom everywhere: There is no safe place. There is no behind the lines "Green Zone." The battle is everywhere.

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trying to get the "won't happen here" folks to understand this is the hard part. so many of them sat on their asses that Virginia turned against the 2nd Amendment overnight.

One of the biggest proponents of the GCA of 1968 was the NRA. Were they the screaming meemies of which you speak?

They too, have swayed with the breeze.

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Well, those were the days when the NRA was still a polished wood and blued steel kind of organization. I had to have a sponsor when I joined in ~1965, for example, and to be a Director took money. You couldn't have electronic meetings back then after all, so for the most part you had to actually haul your rich old butt to meetings.

And the NRA had not yet learned the dynamics of compromise... that is, "they" say "let's do this, 100% on the outrageous scale," and we say, "no, but we'll go for 50%, and a "compromise" is therefore reached.

And we have lost 50% anyway.

"You go along to get along."

Now, that's obvious to thee and me nowadays, but it wasn't to the Board then. And as I have observed, the greater number of people involved in decisions, the greater the opportunity for stupidity to flow.

And the compromises didn't affect their rich old butt opportunities to hunt quail and doves, or African lions, in good old boys fashion.

And, and, the assassination of two Kennedys and MLK resulted in a House vote on GCA 68 of 305 to 118, so it wasn't just a case of the NRA caving.


My personal sense of whom should have guns is rather Darwinist, and I've naturally met resistance on it. Kind of "An armed society is a polite society" catchall, where evil and violent and stupid people will get weeded out as a natural course of everybody being armed.

There is a sort of Louis L'Amour theory I heard, which is that the Wild West wasn't as wild as some of our urban centers. I note whimsically that many of the old "Western" movies would have knock-down drag-out fights where neither party's gun even fell out of their holsters. =D

Of course, sometimes, they didn't even lose their hats.

Terry, 230RN