Court orders NYPD to turn over names, zipcodes, and gun info of 2018 firearms licensees

I'm wondering if this court order can be appealed. This goes directly against the spirit of the FOIA as I understand it, that is, it's not supposed to be a weapon to use against private citizens in order to dox or shame or compel the private citizen into submission or flight...

The FOIA was filed against the NY City PD. So I would think that this plies only to NYC gun owners unless NYC PD issues statewide.

Daily News perioically acquires the NYC handgun permit list to expose and shame handgun permit holders.
I remember when they infamously revealed that Dr. Joyce Brothers' husband had a handgun permit.
Pop psy Doc Brothers publicly claimed gun ownership is motivated by male sexual dysfunction.

Carl N. Brown said:

Daily News perioically acquires the NYC handgun permit list to expose and shame handgun permit holders.
I remember when they infamously revealed that Dr. Joyce Brothers' husband had a handgun permit.
Pop psy Doc Brothers publicly claimed gun ownership is motivated by male sexual dysfunction.

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Crap maybe she had 1st hand knowledge & research... I will save the newspapers any work on my part, no need to shame me, I have a firearms license and not afraid to use it...

That’s why you have to opt out when you sign up and call to verify every so often.

Lycidas Janwor said:

This goes directly against the spirit of the FOIA as I understand it, that is, it's not supposed to be a weapon to use against private citizens in order to dox or shame or compel the private citizen into submission or flight...

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The basic function of the Freedom of Information Act is to ensure informed citizens, vital to the functioning of a democratic society.
https://www.foia.gov/

Since 1967, the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) has provided the public the right to request access to records from any federal agency. It is often described as the law that keeps citizens in the know about their government. Federal agencies are required to disclose any information requested under the FOIA unless it falls under one of nine exemptions which protect interests such as personal privacy, national security, and law enforcement.
https://www.foia.gov/about.html

You could argue that it should not be allowed because of the issue of personal privacy would be violated, but otherwise, information is information. Either it can be released or it can not. What is done with that information is a whole other matter not directly relevant to the act.

Double Naught Spy said:

The basic function of the Freedom of Information Act is to ensure informed citizens, vital to the functioning of a democratic society.
https://www.foia.gov/

Since 1967, the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) has provided the public the right to request access to records from any federal agency. It is often described as the law that keeps citizens in the know about their government. Federal agencies are required to disclose any information requested under the FOIA unless it falls under one of nine exemptions which protect interests such as personal privacy, national security, and law enforcement.
https://www.foia.gov/about.html

You could argue that it should not be allowed because of the issue of personal privacy would be violated, but otherwise, information is information. Either it can be released or it can not. What is done with that information is a whole other matter not directly relevant to the act.

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Again, IMHO, this totally goes against the spirit of FOIA, that is, FOIA is a way for the citizens to keep track of the federal agencies and bureaucracy, not vice versa. It's pretty clear to me that this is encroaching on the personal privacy of law abiding citizens.

Brought to you by the same type of folks that require a doctor to ask if there are firearms in your house when you have a sinus infection, before they'll give you a z-pack. I have wondered if my answers would be covered under HIPPA.
It's difficult to not turn this in a political direction, and without taking sides I wonder what truly goes through the minds of the people who elect or appoint people who think this is ok. It should also make obvious the position most media outlets hold toward the 2A.

This already happens here in Tennessee periodically. I don’t remember which one but there is a newspaper that pulls all carry license holders’ name and address and posts it on their website. If it stands in a state as conservative as Tennessee it almost certainly will in New York.

I went to college in Nashville and I'll bet dollars to donuts it's the Tennessean. And Nashville isn't conservative. Anymore.

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There's some bad reporting going on here, and too many folks who have posted in this thread seem to have taken the bait and are faulting the "Freedom of Information Act (FOIA)" for causing the release of the information.

The "Freedom of Information Act (FOIA)" has nothing to do with this matter.

The knucklehead reporter who authored the Townhall.com article cited in the first post erred when he cited the "Freedom of Information Act" as the basis for the release of the information. Please read the legal pleadings included in his article to gain a correct understanding of what transpired.

The "Freedom of Information Act" is a federal statute that provides an avenue of public access to records maintained by FEDERAL agencies, and where no privilege exists against disclosure. "Double Naught Spy" provided a good informational resource to the "Freedom of Information Act", but one that is also useless to this discussion.

The New York Police Department IS NOT A FEDERAL AGENCY. It's a municipal agency of the city of New York. The "Freedom of Information Act" does not apply to the NYPD.

The court reached its decision by applying the New York STATE statute, "Freedom of Information Law (FOIL)" and not through application of the FOIA.