WOW! Batch of M1 Carbines imported

Yes....months ago. I bought my first of two back in June.



35W

Ya, well, they've been having trouble selling them. I get at least an email a day from them with a special sale offer to purchase an M1 carbine. You really want to buy one of those rifles from the bottom of that cordwood stack, you go right ahead. Don't come back complaining about what you got.

No secret that they are my favorite weapon.
Wonder if there are any M 2's in that batch!

Last one we transferred went for 18K.

Ye gads! Piled like cordwood. . .

$1100 starting price is a little more than I paid for my first M1 carbine 30 years ago... ok, quite a bit more!

Since I don't have my C&R license anymore and I don't really need more than the 1 M1 Carbine that I have I am going to have to pass on this deal. Cool for bringing it up though!

Interesting. A carbine has been on my list for awhile but I never have been able to swallow the price they bring. Not sure this import will bring the price down enough for me but here's hoping.

edwardware said:

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I see more Enfields than carbines in that stack......

Hmmm, out of all those stacks, they only show about 30 carbines in stock. Could be they are just offering small batches as they get cleaned up, or the vast majority were unsalvageable.

Anybody heard an update on the Korean carbines and Garands? Last I remember, Century and the Army were fighting over them, but Obama put the kabosh on the whole deal.

NIGHTLORD40K said:

Hmmm, out of all those stacks, they only show about 30 carbines in stock. Could be they are just offering small batches as they get cleaned up, or the vast majority were unsalvageable.

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The "In Stock" quantity varies quite a lot. I expect they have to sort through them, figure out the manufacturers, whether they're early or late production, etc. then put them in stock. They don't clean them up as far as I can tell. Both of mine (base models, they chose what they sent me) were quite grimy with the innards full of dirt, grass, etc. But both cleaned up very nicely, and both had very nice bores. My second, an Inland, doesn't have a lot of finish left but is a great shooter.



35W

Honestly, I would be very interested in one pending the results of elections tonight. I have never owned an M1, but I did shoot one once and just fell in love with how handy it was, how light the recoil was, and I just loved the sound of working that bolt. I might be picking everyone's brain as to which models might be the best if things go the way I hope tonight.

Olympus said:

Honestly, I would be very interested in one pending the results of elections tonight. I have never owned an M1, but I did shoot one once and just fell in love with how handy it was, how light the recoil was, and I just loved the sound of working that bolt. I might be picking everyone's brain as to which models might be the best if things go the way I hope tonight.

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Don't blame you. While everyone is clamoring and biting their nails over .223 ammunition, .30 Carbine ammo is available and still .40 or less per round.
One of the really attractive things to me about hand loading the .30 Carbine is I can cast my own bullets with a profile that pretty much duplicates the military bullet, gas check it, and run it to right at 2000 fps with no leading. This makes for some really inexpensive ammunition.

As far as the best brand, I don't known that there's much difference between war-time manufacturers. They all built them to the same specifications.

Now aftermarket is an entirely different story. I got a REALLY good bug on an Iver Johnson WW2 commemorative, but it was made to look at, and not shoot. It took a lot of work and tweaking to get it shooting as good as my military Carbines.

35W

Olympus said:

Honestly, I would be very interested in one pending the results of elections tonight. I have never owned an M1, but I did shoot one once and just fell in love with how handy it was, how light the recoil was, and I just loved the sound of working that bolt. I might be picking everyone's brain as to which models might be the best if things go the way I hope tonight.

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They are pretty fun guns. Mine have been accurate and reliable. Any GI gun that isnt totally worn out is a good one, as are "1st Gen." Universals and Plainfields. I wouldnt give a dime for any of the other commercial carbines.

somethingbenign said:

Interesting. A carbine has been on my list for awhile but I never have been able to swallow the price they bring. Not sure this import will bring the price down enough for me but here's hoping.

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With the condition those appear to be in, not sure they would have much impact on price, especially with what they’re asking for ‘em.

If only they were chambered in .30-06. . .






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Speedo66 said:

With the condition those appear to be in, not sure they would have much impact on price, especially with what they’re asking for ‘em.

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Next time you're bored, go to Gunbroker, Advance Search, click the Completed Items tab and do a search for M1 Carbines. Scroll down and sort them by Bid Count: High to Low. Count the total number of auctions in which there were bids and the rifles actually sold, then count and exclude commercial examples such as Iver Johnson, Universal, Plainfield, Auto Ordnance, new production Inland, et al. Then see how many true, non-bubba-ed military Carbines sold for under $1000. I did it and in the first 100 or so auctions, I found exactly four. I didn't look at the descriptions of those four, so there may very well have been issues with them.

I'm betting that within no more than a couple of years many will be wishing they'd have bought a carbine when they were still "cheap" at $1100.

35W

Pretty nice Saginaw at my LGS for $1300. I’d probably go that route if I wanted one.

Looks like Classic wound up with some of these Ethiopian Enfields, Carcanos, and Mausers too.

35 Whelen said:

Next time you're bored, go to Gunbroker, Advance Search, click the Completed Items tab and do a search for M1 Carbines. Scroll down and sort them by Bid Count: High to Low. Count the total number of auctions in which there were bids and the rifles actually sold, then count and exclude commercial examples such as Iver Johnson, Universal, Plainfield, Auto Ordnance, new production Inland, et al. Then see how many true, non-bubba-ed military Carbines sold for under $1000. I did it and in the first 100 or so auctions, I found exactly four. I didn't look at the descriptions of those four, so there may very well have been issues with them.

I'm betting that within no more than a couple of years many will be wishing they'd have bought a carbine when they were still "cheap" at $1100.

35W

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I agree that $1100 at the present time seems to be the going price for a nice condition Carbine, finer condition or rarity adds value, and money. But from the looks of the storage and condition of the Royal Tiger batch, I don't think they reach "nice" condition, and can't see them lowering the price level of Carbines in general.

They may be all original, but stacking them like firewood and decades of neglect couldn't have done good things for either the wood or steel parts.

Yeah I wonder if the barrels on the bottom of the stack could possibly be bent from all the weight sitting on them. Helluva find, though.

Well, I have a GI Inland, courtesy of the CMP. Love shooting it, but for serious home defense use, I didn't want to beat it up.
Last year, I found this Auto Ordnance in it's OEM Choate folding stock for a bargain price, and took a chance on it.
Turns out it shoots great.

NIGHTLORD40K said:

They are pretty fun guns. Mine have been accurate and reliable. Any GI gun that isnt totally worn out is a good one, as are "1st Gen." Universals and Plainfields. I wouldnt give a dime for any of the other commercial carbines.

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I like my AO so much that it was the gun I tossed in the car when the plandemic started. It fits in a tennis racquet bag, along with a cheap camera bag of loaded magazines.

I have an old inland and my grandpas old winchester. Other than the sentimental value of the winchester there is no way id ever consider paying 1k for an m1 carbine. Especially one looking like those. I'm glad others are that interested in the history though. Surely that's why they are being bought.

Looks like I'll be saving my money for $4/gal gas that will be coming in the next year or so.

NIGHTLORD40K said:

Anybody heard an update on the Korean carbines and Garands

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The Korean Garands came back 6 or 8 years ago. I bought a beautiful HRA from the CMP