That's easier to answer. Blade lengths are shorter so penetration is less. Slashing is weaker due to the grip. Reach is the least disadvantaged, but a T grip looses an inch or two over a saber grip.
What size push knife?
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That's easier to answer. Blade lengths are shorter so penetration is less. Slashing is weaker due to the grip. Reach is the least disadvantaged, but a T grip looses an inch or two over a saber grip.
Aren't Katar push knives? They have 10" blades. If you're talking about the small handles that are just a little wider than the blade, they would limit slashing but if size isn't a limitation the handle could be designed so its equal. I don't have a push dagger anymore so I can't compare reach, but handle design on both versions is critical for reach. I'm a fan of push daggers, I just don't carry one anymore.
There aren't too many of those around and were never widespread.
I like them also and own custom versions, but, like you, I don't carry one. I understand the utility of the small neck knife versions and even the keychains as deep concealed "get off me" knives, but I don't carry any of those.
It was an unfortunate circumstance, but while I was in my last year of college a couple of people were shot just off campus at push dagger range during inept robberies. No one died, but it was just luck. The perp was never caught that I heard. I carried an old school Cold Steel Safe Keeper with a 5" blade inside the waistband. Never used it, but carried it the rest of that year.
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As such they don't need to be very large as a last ditch tool when you're already in contact with an assailant.
As such they don't need to be very large as a last ditch tool when you're already in contact with an assailant.
There is nothing new under the sun. People may live and die, but the kinds of circumstances they encounter don't change. Similarly, eventually topics resurface.
Now, it's okay to like something just because. There doesn't need to be a real justification. On the other hand, understand that a lot of folks read every thread. If someone they might view as an authority gives a suggestion about push daggers without any qualifiers, some readers will think that's a blanket endorsement- and that would be a grave disservice to those readers.
Please don't get riled at the moderators for trying to do our duty, as we understand it.
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Auto knives are not permitted in CA . You are correct about a knife suspended from the belt in any configuration (other than auto or ballistic) is legal in Ca. I have carried huge double edged "knives" on my Kilt belt to fairs ect. I carry a 10" knife on belt riding a motorcycle. In Ca. if you also have a valid hunting or Fishing lic. with you you will be given back your open carried knife after having a profiling interview if you are a three patched MC rider
The officer doesn't want to look the fool in court .
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There's no law against owning an auto knife in CA. There is against carrying one, having one in your vehicle, in public, etc.
Nope
Penal Code 21510 PC, California law makes it a crime to carry, possess in public, sell or give away a switchblade.
Penal Code 17235 PC defines a switchblade as a pocketknife with a blade of 2 or more inches that can be released by a flick of a button, pressure on the handle, flip of the wrist or another mechanical device.
Notice that "possession" only refers to "in public", meaning you can own them as a curio or collectable, but only carry the sub 2" ones. This is where the term "California legal switchblade" comes from.
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So very true! I'm not sure why some read things into the CA PC when it comes to knives? They get confused about the "dirk and dagger" label used for fixed blade knives, they dredge up the notion that double-edged blades are illegal (they by themselves are not), they suggest you cannot even own an automatic, etc.
Here's PC 21510 in full:
"Every person who does any of the following with a switchblade knife having a blade two or more inches in length is guilty of a misdemeanor:
(a) Possesses the knife in the passenger’s or driver’s area of any motor vehicle in any public place or place open to the public.
(b) Carries the knife upon the person.
(c) Sells, offers for sale, exposes for sale, loans, transfers, or gives the knife to any other person.
(Added by Stats. 2010, Ch. 711, Sec. 6. (SB 1080) Effective January 1, 2011. Operative January 1, 2012, by Sec. 10 of Ch. 711.)"
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That's not really true. The following knives (in addition to automatics and ballistic knives) are illegal to carry to California, both concealed and openly:
- Cane knives.
- Air gauge knives.
- Lipstick knives.
- Bet buckle knives.
- Writing pen knives.
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I of course knew that and had a large collection of same. I knew it generally prosecuted more severely than the first offense of a concealed .45 so never carried one in Ca. or Oregon either for that matter . I thought about a 2" one a few times and decide the $ was better spent else where.
Forgive me Father for I have sinned with my Bowen Belt knives for decades past , well at least I wasn't a lipstick or air guage knife pervert !
Why do half America think our elected officials (edited) write such trivia for a living ?
Forgive me Father for I have sinned with my Bowen Belt knives for decades past
, well at least I wasn't a lipstick or air guage knife pervert ! Why do half America think our elected officials (edited) write such trivia for a living ?
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