Please Stay on Topic This Time! - Question About Biden's "Assault Weapons" Ban (part 2)

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So I asked a question about if anyone had seen anywhere if Biden indicated how he plans to actually define an assault weapon?

The thing that prompted me to ask this question was this quote from his website
For example, the ban on assault weapons will be designed to prevent manufacturers from circumventing the law by making minor changes that don’t limit the weapon’s lethality
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Instead most of the responses were people commenting on the legality of such a ban and the limits of executive orders. While this is a fair debate to have it is not directly related to what I asked and belongs in a thread of it's own. This resulted in the thread being locked before I could respond to the people that did respond to my question.

Here is a link to the original thread https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/question-about-bidens-assault-weapons-ban.879550/

I kindly ask that you please keep your responses limited to the scope of my original question to avoid this happening again. Thank you so much in advance.

Remember the only question I am asking is if anyone has seen anything that has indicated how Biden plans to define an "assault weapon"

SharpDog said:
I believe they will try to close any loopholes this time. Good luck with your 'compliant configuration'.

I would start with the Feistein ban legislation. It will be at least that and likely more.

Senators Introduce Assault Weapons Ban - Press Releases - United States Senator for California (senate.gov)
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"a detachable ammunition magazine and has one or more military characteristics including
a pistol grip
a forward grip
a barrel shroud
a threaded barrel
a folding or telescoping stock"

Okay so based on this definition it would be very similar to the current DC ban with the major difference being the threaded barrel itself rather than the specific type of muzzle device. However I don't see how this definition would "limit the weapons lethality" this is close to what I had originally assumed he would try to do but after reading that quote from his website was wondering if anything more. But I have not been able to find any information in his rhetoric or press releases.

CapnMac said:
This is an issue with a big bag of "ifs" in it.
POTUS can only sign legislation brought to him. That requires a compliant Congress, both House and Senate. And, then the houses both have to agree.

At present all we have in campaign rhetoric, which has been, historically, mercurial.

So, there are no answers here, no better than speculating on a meteorite impact. Purely speculative at best.
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yes I understand there is some speculation here but what I am asking is if he or now that he has started picking cabinet members they have said anything or published that may indicate how the Biden administration would actually define "assault weapon" as statements on his website seem to run contrary to the traditional understating of the language that is used in "assault weapon" bans
 
No one can really answer your question at this point.

Please keep in mind, that the President cannot make any laws.

Laws are made by Congress. Congressional members of the President's party may be very willing to introduce, and advocate, for laws as desired by the President, but the President has zero authority to do it himself.

Once a bill is introduced in Congress, it has to proceed through the legislative process, the contents of a bill often change as it moves along, and that is often done to reach a compromise that can result in the passage of the bill. We haven't even begun to go down that road.
 
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As mentioned there is no way to read Joe's mind. Gun owners have long made it clear they in large part are fine with more gun laws. So we will of course see more attempts. No one can say how they will look.
 
RickD427 said:
No one can really answer your question at this point.

Please keep in mind, that the President cannot make any laws.

Laws are made by Congress. Congressional members of the President's party may be very willing to introduce, and advocate, for laws as desired by the President, but the President has zero authority to do it himself.

Once a bill is introduced in Congress, it has to proceed through the legislative process, the contents of a bill often change as it moves along, and that is often done to reach a compromise that can result in the passage of the bill. We haven't even begin to go down that road.
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I understand the president dose not make laws, but that is outside the scope of my original question. My question was not about the legislative process. My question was specifically about whether any one from the Biden camp had indicated how they intended to define "assault weapon".
 
What does your street sense tell you?

Mine tells me that Mini 14's will be on that list, right along with AR 15's.

He will also try to classify a Berretta, and all other hi cap pistols, as weapons of war.

And, I think that he will go after the M1911, the same way.

Mark my words, you will be shocked at the list. He will have The Brady Campaign et al, to advise him too.
 
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Anything that the Administration hopes to use will be written by the Bloomberg front groups, the Brady Bunch, the Giffords and related anti-rights groups. Biden and his gun control Czar, Francis Beta O'Rourke, will simply solicit language from them. If you want to guess what Biden will push, look to the proposals that have been promoted by these groups. Many of these groups have promoted a definition of "assault weapon" that would effectively encompass all semi-auto firearms with a magazine capacity greater than 10. So, one then must speculate about the mechanism by which Biden would seek a "ban". Because there is no mechanism short of law that could create a ban on all semi-autos with a magazine capacity greater than 10 rounds (and no such law would go without likely successful {to some degree} judicial challenge). So, does he intend to have Beta O'Rourke make much sound and fury about proposals that will be virtually impossible to get Congress to pass for the political purpose of saying the right stuff to his base? Or, will he take action in the extremely limited realm that he can without seeking legislation? Strategy will likely dictate what definition the Administration solicits from the anti-rights groups.
 
Gun4Fun90 said:
I understand the president dose not make laws, but that is outside the scope of my original question. My question was not about the legislative process. My question was specifically about whether any one from the Biden camp had indicated how they intended to define "assault weapon".
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Sir, actually my reply was within the scope of your question, but let me re-state the idea in simpler terms - The Biden camp does not get to define what is an "Assault Weapon." Just like any other person, or group, that enjoys the right of free speech, they can attach whatever meaning they want to the term. But don't have the ability to define the term. That prerogative is only available to Congress.
 
They have been banning "assault weapons" in California since 1989, you can still buy AR and AK pattern guns in California. The only workable definition would be all magazine feed, semi auto, center fire rifles. You would be amazed at the workarounds that have been devised in California.
 
Gun4Fun90 said:
Remember the only question I am asking is if anyone has seen anything that has indicated how Biden plans to define an "assault weapon"
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I do not know of any specifics. Actually I don't know of anything beyond a vague campaign promise. But considering how apposed they are to "assault weapons" I'm guessing none of his staff would be informed enough to have any idea how to go about such legislation.

And they've got bigger fish to fry.
 
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