1957 Winchester 88 Question

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Hi all,

My new to me 1957 Winchester 88 has swivel studs with the forend stud being able to rotate. Additional information is that there are no bows attached. I thought that all this meant that someone removed the original sling swivels and replaced them. However, upon inspection, there are no signs of this being performed. Removing the action from the stock shows no discoloration or removal of wood. The forend stud, when rotated, also rotates in the stock section. From the outside, I can barely make out that the section in the wood is knurled.

My question is, could this be original from the factory and if not, how does the forend stud get removed? Is it likely press fit in or glued? I don't want to damage this classic - if the swivel studs aren't original I would like to switch them out with originals.

Thanks
 
This is the original swivel on my dad's 88.

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This is the back side from a M70 with the same setup. The rectangular piece is actually a nut that is free to rotate in the cutout. If you put finger pressure on it you can screw the swivel in or out. Screw it in enough and it will get tight.

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Thanks for the response and pictures. Mine definitely doesn't have the "nut" in the stock although the cutout for it is there. I tried putting finger pressure on the rotating part and turning the stud but it just continued rotating. Here are some pictures.
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Laphroaig,
Can you tell if your father's M88 forend swivel has the same knurled insert from the outside? Also, wondering if the M70's round cutout in the stock is the same for M88 because mine is different with a larger cutout.
 
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From the inside it looks pretty much the same as the M70, except that the "nut" isn't free to rotate. Finger pressure and it screws out.

That's not a very secure system in that the swiveling takes place as the stud screws in and out of the retaining nut. Too many turns and it falls off. My guess is that it happened to a previous owner and they "fixed" it by securing the nut to the stud somehow.

ETA: Looking closer at your pictures the end of the stud appears to be peened which probably explains the tight fit. Possibly a different or modified nut to allow it to swivel after the peening.
 
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I appreciate all your effort and agree with your assessment. Looks like I'm not going to try to remove the swivel/stud. Makes you wonder why Winchester would make it like that.
 
So what is yours chambered in? Mines a .308. I need to take it hunting next year. I've carried it a few times but never got a shot while doing so.
 
So what is yours chambered in? Mines a .308. I need to take it hunting next year. I've carried it a few times but never got a shot while doing so.



I know of one that I can use in .243 it only has iron sights on it!
 
Mine is in .243. If you get a shot, make it count. Don't want to waste precious ammo. Lol!
 
I was hoping that you said .284 Win. That's what my Dad wanted, but he found the .308 used and it was a good deal so he bought it. $100 including a case and 2 boxes of ammo. I can remember going with him to buy it from an older gentleman who had put less than a box of ammo through it. My Dad was left handed and a dyed in the wool lever guy. Had to sell his M71 to justify the scopeable M88.

Now that I have it out of the stock, anyone have advice as to how tight to make the single action screw? Crazy design, the screw fits into the barrel a fair distance from the actual receiver. I'm thinking pretty tight.
 
My Model 88 is chambered in 308 and is a fine shooter.

I’ve hunted pigs with it and find it to be accurate and fast handling.
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Mine dates from 1959 and is far from pristine.

Somebody at some point in its history put a black recoil pad on it and the magazine isn’t original to the gun (it’s a Wiseners reproduction) and it has only one sling swivel attached on the toe of the stock and it has just a sling stud up front on the forearm.

I enjoy shooting it and most probably have fired ten times as many rounds through it than the previous owners combined.

Trigger pull on mine isn’t that bad and while other people complain about the recoil on the 88 I don’t find it to be bad at all (recoil pad probably helps with that).
 
I have one in .308 that was my Dads. It was his favorite rifle and he shot it well. I got it to shoot ok with some loads I worked up but the trigger on these is just crap imo. Not much you can do to make them better either. There was a guy that use to be able to work these triggers but got out of it long ago.
 
My Model 88 is chambered in 308 and is a fine shooter.

I’ve hunted pigs with it and find it to be accurate and fast handling.
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Mine dates from 1959 and is far from pristine.

Somebody at some point in its history put a black recoil pad on it and the magazine isn’t original to the gun (it’s a Wiseners reproduction) and it has only one sling swivel attached on the toe of the stock and it has just a sling stud up front on the forearm.

I enjoy shooting it and most probably have fired ten times as many rounds through it than the previous owners combined.

Trigger pull on mine isn’t that bad and while other people complain about the recoil on the 88 I don’t find it to be bad at all (recoil pad probably helps with that).

Looks great to me. Can't see any dings in your stock. My trigger is a little mushy but the pull weight is good. Apparently not as bad as others.
 
Trying to replace the firing pin now. Does anyone know if there is a particular direction to drift the retaining pin out? Left to right or right to left?
 
I was hoping that you said .284 Win. That's what my Dad wanted, but he found the .308 used and it was a good deal so he bought it. $100 including a case and 2 boxes of ammo. I can remember going with him to buy it from an older gentleman who had put less than a box of ammo through it. My Dad was left handed and a dyed in the wool lever guy. Had to sell his M71 to justify the scopeable M88.

Now that I have it out of the stock, anyone have advice as to how tight to make the single action screw? Crazy design, the screw fits into the barrel a fair distance from the actual receiver. I'm thinking pretty tight.
I replied to your question.
 
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