Stupidly expensive Turkey loads

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Yeah, for that money it should dress it, stuff it, cook it, and serve it! And make the gravy!
I think it’s worth it if you get a successful hunt.

what’s the bag/tag limit a year on turkey? 2-3? box of shells would last you years
 
BPI had bismuth at one point. Are you loading with that or are you just buying factory shells? I am curious on how bismuth loads as I have a friend from college who lives in non-toxic land and we were talking reloading last time we talked. He was griping about the cost of Barnes bullets and asked if I knew of a good alternative. I don’t since I shoot lead.

The bismuth I’m currently using is BOSS. It’s mail order only. I bought a case of 1 1/4 oz #5s last year along with 4 boxes of 1 1/8 oz # 7s.

Beware, their cases are only 200 rounds, their boxes only 20 rounds.

I patterned the 5s at 40 yards with my gun and the pattern was consistent with lead 5s outta my gun. But lead 6s were so much better and I think the 6 lead carries as much energy as bismuth 5s.

Our chukar hatch was terrible this year so I only killed 30 birds, 1/2 in California with bismuth. Based on this small sample size I know I did better with bismuth than steel. Jury is still out comparing it to lead.

Hoping for a great hatch this year!
 
For FL hunters, your limit is two spring gobblers. Centerfire rifles not allowed. Fall archery either sex. GeoDudeFL I'm guessing that you're not from FL. Someone earlier said that "he'd heard that wild turkey didn't taste that good", yea right, and back strap is the worst too. I say, it's mighty fine eating. Best All
 
For FL hunters, your limit is two spring gobblers. Centerfire rifles not allowed. Fall archery either sex. GeoDudeFL I'm guessing that you're not from FL. Someone earlier said that "he'd heard that wild turkey didn't taste that good", yea right, and back strap is the worst too. I say, it's mighty fine eating. Best All
A lot depends on WHAT those critters have been eating.............
 
For FL hunters, your limit is two spring gobblers. Centerfire rifles not allowed. Fall archery either sex. GeoDudeFL I'm guessing that you're not from FL. Someone earlier said that "he'd heard that wild turkey didn't taste that good", yea right, and back strap is the worst too. I say, it's mighty fine eating. Best All
Native born and reared Floridian. Nice job proving at least half the old saying about assuming is true. Bless you and yours.
 
For pricing...
Ballistic Products is generally fair. The big boys likely get much better pricing than this, but it does go to show that the materials are far from cheap. $2 per ounce of material and they use 2 ounces per shell for the premium 12 ga stuff. About 1.5 oz for the 20ga. That’s $3 or $4 in nothing but shot. It likely takes a special wad, so another quarter, and the general high brass shell and powder rounds out the material list. Looking at around $5 per shot if you make it yourself. Now add into consideration that they are dedicating a production line, have to pay for R&D, special packaging, and have to pay a fortune to get ads out there and get magazine reviews to favor the product enough for somebody to be willing to pay the premium for the shells. If they use the very best tungsten then it adds about $2 to each shell. You make it yourself and your looking at $35 a box. The $40-$50 range suddenly seems reasonable in this light. View attachment 991994
Spot on for what I wanted to know. Thank you for the insight. :)
 
Good marketing has led us to believe we need 3 1/2" 10 ga. loads and scopes with which to hunt turkey. Many years ago I had a partial bag of high antimony #4 shot sitting around so I loaded up a couple of boxes of turkey loads with 2 3/4" shells; some 1 3/8 oz. some 1 1/2 oz. I never lost a bird with either. Several years ago I was guiding a fella and and we got his bird, the Tom's just kept gobbling. So after taking pictures of his I called up one for myself and killed him with an old Fox Model B 16 ga. and a Winchester factory load of 1 1/8 oz. of #4 shot. A buddy of mine had a Tom gobbling outside his bathroom window and took him out with a #8 shot Dove & Quail load.
Get 'em in close and most anything will work.

35W
 
I am so glad that our LGS doesn't gouge. I priced some 3" 12ga TSS at his store for $45. I didn't buy them and will stick to my Longbeards, but his price was below all others that I have seen.
 
I can't help but wonder how hunters killed turkey before the advent of shotshells that cost $8 - $10 apiece.

35W
The only other authorized way in my state is a bow. DNR was literally standing behind me and I asked him a bunch of questions to quell some of my ignorance
 
I can't help but wonder how hunters killed turkey before the advent of shotshells that cost $8 - $10 apiece.

35W

The exact way you described in post #58.
Opener here is hours away, and ill be using some of them "Turkey " shells I picked up for a reasonable number at the sporting goods. I like the fact that they'll have enough gogo to get out a ways if need be, but had I not picked these up, I'd be using my pheasant loads out that extra full
 
I can't help but wonder how hunters killed turkey before the advent of shotshells that cost $8 - $10 apiece.

35W
Same way, just some folks don't mind trying new things . Can't condemn a hunter because he is willing to spend more money , price police be damned.
 
Paying for premium hunting ammo to hunt anything is generally a drop in the bucket compared to all the other associated costs of hunting.
Clothing, tags, guns, calls, gas/airfair, food, lodging (not everyone hunts from their back porch)is all very expensive. After all that, l think fretting over the cost of ammo for a low volume hunt like turkeys where you will be beating the odds to even get 1 shot, doesn’t make much sense to me.
Ever had a Tom come in but hang up just outta range? In that moment I bet you would be willing to give the turkey that $8 you saved for him to come in a few more yards.
 
That price that on the new TSS loads is extreme. They're about $35/5 here for TSS loads. I'd go back to 12 ga with 3" #5 lead pheasant loads before I even thought about trying those shells for that price! I hunt turkeys with a 20 ga and use 3" Federal Heavyweight#7's. It's a bonafide 50 yd load out of either of my 20's with a Trulock HW7 choke. When federal discontinued the HW#7's (to go to TSS loads) I went and bought all they had, on sale, for about $3/shot, and I thought that was a bit much. We have gauge and shot size restrictions here, so I can't Hunt with the TSS#9 shot anyways. In all honesty, the longest shot I've taken has been 52steps and it stone cold dropped him. All other shots have been between 8 and 30yds. Do I need em? No, but I sure am confident in them.
 
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They use tungsten for the pellets. Most are loaded with smaller #8 or #9 shot to get a lot of pellets down range. They hold tight patterns and the tungsten still penetrates even in the smaller shot sizes.
THIS. I have a lot of buddies who Turkey hunt and swear by it. They say they can shoot out to 70+ yards. The tiny tungsten shot still has good density out to that range. For the time/money put into a Turkey hunt. The cost of a $10 shot shell is insignificant. The magic is being able to make #9 shot deadly. Tungsten is the 'magic bullet' here. When you can use #9 instead of #2-5, shot density increases DRAMATICALLY.
 
A friend who shot turkey #101 this week is currently using the WW Longbeard XR which is copper plated No 5 in a trick wad.
Of the three thus far this season he has killed one at 42 broken ground paces, one at 22, one at 23. Missed one at 50+. Yes, he aims to put a tight shot pattern on the head and neck.

He and his family have eaten a lot of game, venison and turkey, over the years, but company gets beef and Butterball.
But it is also his main sport, he describes his battles with the birds on TFL.
https://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6863344#post6863344
I am a LongBeard fan. Just got back from the range after testing loads and chokes. I was really amazed by the Indian Creek .665 coupled with the Longbeards. #4, 5, or 6's shot very tight patterns at 40 yards. It put 0ver 30 #4's in the head and neck at 40 yards. The Undertaker .650 and a Hasting .650 shot well with the 6's, but was a little too tight for the larger shot. Our season opens Monday so maybe I can post a picture of a dead bird next week. Key word: "Maybe".
 
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