RE: the .280/7mm...

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BreechFace said:
I would strongly suggest you consider the AI treatment, for more than just increased powder capacity, brass life is extended as well. There really is no downside other than imperceptible chambering differences between the non-AI and AI version due to the straighter case design.

As long as 280 Rem brass is available 280AI brass will be available, and there will probably be increased commercial availability going forward of 280AI loadings as opposed to 280 Rem loadings.

But if you are an originalist when it comes to cartridges I guess I'm not going to argue with personal preferences after this point.
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Am aware of the benefits, but this is not goin' to be a rifle that is shot a lot, so case life at .270 WCF rates is fine.

And I don't really want the extra case capacity, either.

More room means more powder and recoil to do the same work.

The .280 Rem/160 gr. should shoot the pants off any .308/.30-06 with considerably less recoil.

And, for me... that's good enough.

Slow powders - make it work.




GR
 
Alliant Powder - says that, from a .280 Rem., you can push a Speer 160 gr. SP to over 2800 fps/MV/24" Bbl. w/ either RL 19 or 22.

... and there is load data out there for both 160 and 175 gr. Nosler bullets that produce > 2950 and 2850 fps, respectively, using RL 26 from a 22" Bbl.

That's a 500 yd. rifle right there.




GR
 
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Speaking of the .280 Rem, it reminded me of another rather nice .280 that has been one of my favorite sheep hunting rigs because it weighs only 6.5 lbs. Its lightness is mainly due to the yama wood stock made by Monty Kennedy. and tacky aluminum alloy bottom metal. Rifle was originally a milsurp Brno small ring 7X57 Mauser, with barrel simply rechambered to .280. DSC_1151 (2).JPG DSC_1158 (2).JPG DSC_1164 (2).JPG 21A_3495 (2).JPG
 
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Offfhand said:
Speaking of the .280 Rem, it reminded me of another rather nice .280 that has been one of my favorite sheep hunting rigs because it weighs only 6.5 lbs. Its lightness is mainly due to the yama wood stock made by Monty Kennedy. and tacky aluminum alloy bottom metal. Rifle was originally a milsurp Brno small ring 7X57 Mauser, with barrel simply rechambered to .280.View attachment 993733 View attachment 993734 View attachment 993737 View attachment 993744
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Subjective, but how is the recoil out of a 6.5 lb. .280 Rem rifle?

My sons' Mossberg Patriot Synthetic - Vortex Scoped Combos chambered in .270 Win weigh 7.5 lbs.

Shootin' factory 150 gr. ammo, don't think I would enjoy much more.




GR
 
Garandimal said:
Subjective, but how is the recoil out of a 6.5 lb. .280 Rem rifle?
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The world's wild sheep live on mountains that are high and steep. When you go to those mountains you discover that a rifle's weight means everything, it's recoil means nothing. This Ultra Light Arms .280 weighs less than 6 lbs even with the hefty Swarovski scope. It was built to hunt wild sheep, not for plinking at the gun club, I wish it weighed even less.. NULA1 (2).JPG NULA4 (2).JPG 21A_3501.JPG .
 
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High Plains said:
... I like the points on weight being everything and recoil meaning nothing. If you shoot once, maybe twice with a light weight rifle when it’s a great hunt?
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And if you miss, or hit poorly once, maybe twice... because of your developed poor field shooting...?

... not a great hunt after all.


Offfhand said:
...When you go to those mountains you discover that a rifle's weight means everything, it's recoil means nothing...
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Shot Placement - means everything... and recoil is a function of that.

Rifle weight - is just a function of your physical ability to carry it.

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Offfhand said:
The world's wild sheep live on mountains that are high and steep. When you go to those mountains you discover that a rifle's weight means everything, it's recoil means nothing. This Ultra Light Arms .280 weighs less than 6 lbs even with the hefty Swarovski scope. It was built to hunt wild sheep, not for plinking at the gun club, I wish it weighed even less..View attachment 993808 View attachment 993809 View attachment 993810 .
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Have same rifle chambered for 280AI. It's my wife rifle build as you know part of serial # is year build and model 24. Isn't model 20 sheep rifle?

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I have a Ruger 77 Mark 2 in 280 22 inch barrel. It has the Zytel, boat paddle stock. Got it new in about 1993. This got me curious to what the twist is. I search the web with no luck. Does anyone know by chance ?Thanks
 
irishlad said:
I have a Ruger 77 Mark 2 in 280 22 inch barrel. It has the Zytel, boat paddle stock. Got it new in about 1993. This got me curious to what the twist is. I search the web with no luck. Does anyone know by chance ?Thanks
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Mine is a walnut stock, but I'll check the twist when I get home...
 
irishlad said:
I have a Ruger 77 Mark 2 in 280 22 inch barrel. It has the Zytel, boat paddle stock. Got it new in about 1993. This got me curious to what the twist is. I search the web with no luck. Does anyone know by chance ?Thanks
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A cleaning rod/lightly oiled tight-patched jag/piece of tape/sharpie/ruler will sort it out in no time.




GR
 
Garandimal said:
Am aware of the benefits, but this is not goin' to be a rifle that is shot a lot, so case life at .270 WCF rates is fine.

And I don't really want the extra case capacity, either...GR
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Not to muddy the waters too much. Take a look at the 7mm-06 wildcat if you reload. Gives you the benifit of the .280 Remington with a very slightly smaller case which allows to use .270 Winchester and .30-06 Springfield brass without fireforming. The only problem I can imagine is it you went on a safari where customs is anal about cartridges headstamp being the same as the rifle caliber.

I was really looking at the .280 AI want Nosler came out with it from the factory, but got turned off when I found out they didn't used the original dimensions of P.O.Ackley.
 
Jerry M said:
was really looking at the .280 AI want Nosler came out with it from the factory, but got turned off when I found out they didn't used the original dimensions of P.O.Ackley
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Ive read thru the arguments about the dimensional differences, but im either missing or don't understand the practical issues, if there are any.
 
When I bought this Ruger 77 Hawkeye in 280 Rem some years ago I had a choice of it or an 06 for the same price. I’ve 3-4 06s I guess I was just tired of them. I have some factory ammo and my neighbor loaded me enough for a lifetime supply. I’m 80 YO and don’t get out like I once did. It’s a fine shooting and accurate rifle. IMG-0591.jpg
 
Offfhand said:
The world's wild sheep live on mountains that are high and steep. When you go to those mountains you discover that a rifle's weight means everything, it's recoil means nothing. This Ultra Light Arms .280 weighs less than 6 lbs even with the hefty Swarovski scope. It was built to hunt wild sheep, not for plinking at the gun club, I wish it weighed even less..View attachment 993808 View attachment 993809 View attachment 993810 .
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Offhand, I remember reading about the Ultra Light Arms rifles during a time in my life that the finances would not allow a purchase like it. They are so cool ! Light, Accurate, and well balanced. Thanks for sharing!!!
 
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