Any info on W572

From the Hodgdon's site:

"Winchester 572 is a ball powder strategically designed to optimize a myriad of shotshell and handgun loads. First, 572 has the correct burn rate to create the famous 3-¼-dram equivalent, 1-¼ oz, (1330 FPS) 12-gauge factory Winchester load with any brand case! Back Fence competitors and pheasant hunters will be delighted. Winchester 572 also provides superb clay target or field loads in 20- and 28-gauge, and, outstanding field loads for the wonderful 16 gauge. In addition, 572 has a vast number of pistol applications, ranging from the 25 ACP to 45 ACP, and all popular calibers in between."

If you go there, they have a handy load calculator at the bottom of the page. https://shop.hodgdon.com/winchester/winchester-572

If you are asking this question because you purchased some MP190 or MP195 from American Reloading, please remember to reduce your initial load by 10 percent at start and work your way up.

kerreckt said:

Does anyone have data or experiences they will share about W572? I have searched on this forum and am looking for more info. Mostly concerning 9mm, 40S&W and 45acp. Any others would be welcome, also. Best wishes!

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How difficult it is it to look at the Hodgdons website. They have data for all 3 calibers??????????

https://shop.hodgdon.com/reloading-data-center

Kerreckt - I have used it in 12 Gauge 1 1/8 oz loads with success: Federal Gold Medal hulls with Federal 209A primers and CB2118-12 wad over 23.0 grains W572. I liked the load, but ran out of the 572!

kerreckt said:

Obviously, I have checked these sources. I was looking for people's experiences. Thanks for your help!!!!!

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Was not "obvious"
Sorry, your post did not indicate that you had looked there.
My apologies.

I have never used it myself.

I used it in 9mm and it seemed to shoot ok, but my vels measured with a chrono were quite a bit lower than what Hodgdon posted. (other Hodgdon listed vels, HP38, Universal, CFE-P for example were pretty close to what I got)
Bought a pound and played with it, put it on my don't buy again unless it is the only thing available list.
Might be a bit slow burning for .45, but should work. I preferred CFE-P to W572. I like WSF better than CFE-P or W572.
YMMV

Dudedog said:

I used it in 9mm and it seemed to shoot ok, but my vels measured with a chrono were quite a bit lower than what Hodgdon posted.

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I found the same thing with W244 in 9mm and .45ACP... workable, but not the optimistic velocities in the data.

I have a curiosity of W572, but like Dude mentions... it might be a little slow for .45ACP.

I found the same thing with W244 in 9mm

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Yep, I noticed that with 244 as well.
Given the choice between 244 and 572 I would choose W244.

Dudedog said:

Yep, I noticed that with 244 as well.
Given the choice between 244 and 572 I would choose W244.

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to do it over again, I’d prolly try WSF in 9…

I really like WSF in 9mm, good stuff IMO.
It will work in .45, but for .45 practice/fun loads I prefer HP38, AA#2 or N320.
I don't own a .40 so I don't know how it is there but I would guess that it would work well there given it's burn speed.
Only issue with WSF is there is not a lot of data out there for it.

WSF is my go to powder for 9mm. It also works very well in 40 cal. I'm in the process of using it in the 357 sig. Every thing so far shows it works just fine. May not give you max velocity but that's not needed for punching holes in paper or ringing steel.

I have a box full of Winchester WAA12 wads, Remington STS cases, and Winchester 572. Is there a published load for this combination for 1 1/8 oz. of shot? I have found loads listed for several different wads but a dearth of data for the WAA12. Any help would be appreciated.
Thank you

kerreckt said:

Does anyone have data or experiences they will share about W572? I have searched on this forum and am looking for more info. Mostly concerning 9mm, 40S&W and 45acp. Any others would be welcome, also. Best wishes!

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It seems to be positioned to replace HS-6. It has a higher volume density measure number (1 grain/cc) so it will weigh less per volume and case fill will be better (the higher the VMD, the better the case fill) compared to HS-6. It's about the same as AA#2 (0.0838 vs .0823 for W572) and it's a slightly slower powder than HS-6 - very slightly, just a touch closer to Blue Dot. I'm not sure what the need is unless HS-6 just isn't selling for some reason but, as far as I can tell, there are lots better shot powders out there and HS-6 is a good powder, already. Then again, there used to be HS-5 and HS-7 too and they're gone so, maybe this is just more "progress"?

Might try emailing Hodgdon and see if they have anything.
I don't see any 1 1/8 ounce loads listed on their site for Rem STS hulls and 572. They do show W572 with 1 1/4 and 1 3/8 oz loads.