Ammo Testing for Henry H001 22

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I broke down and put a scope on my H001. I’ve been shooting a box of Thunderbolts through it for a long time. With these it’s a one hole rifle at 25 yards.

However I have a variety of ammo I want to maybe try. Groups open up at 50 yards with Thunderbolt so maybe I can find a better choice.

I have Minimags, Aguila blue and red box Super Extra, CCI Standard Velocity, and Automatch to try. Is there another that seems to work well in these guns?
 
I bought a 500 round box of Thunderbolt then found out it doesn’t work too well in any of my other 22s. It’s accurate but this is my only manual action and it doesn’t cycle the others.

With variety returning to the 22 ammo market, maybe a dedicated rimfire range day is in order. I also have a supply of 22 Shorts, Quiets, and CB Long and Short I got just for this rifle when I rat problem in the back yard. My dog took care of that before I got to help. She killed three in 2 days and I guess word got around.
 
Well that didn’t go as planned. I tested the low noise rounds I have on hand. CB Long, CB Short, and 22 Short 1,100 fps load.

They all basically shot the same at 25 yards. Groups were about 1 inch give or take with the CB rounds hitting a little lower. The CB Longs shot just a little better but still nothing to write home about. However, this is consistent with some testing I did a while back when it only had the factory iron sights.
 
25 yds is pretty close for a rifle. You wont see real accuracy differences until you’re out past 50.

The sub-1” group with cheap Blazer ammo was shot with an open-sighted Rossi 62A at 25 yds., rested on a foam shooting block. At 50 I will expect them to more than double in size, at 100 I’d be thrilled to keep all the shots in the 8-ring. :)

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If you can shoot out to 50 or beyond you will really get a chance to see what your Henry and ammo can do. :thumbup:

Stay safe.
 
Of the 5 you have listed my experience is that they will all do well. Mini Mags seem to run the most accurate in mine. On the other hand mine will run any 22 ammo, including Collibris.

My H001 carbine at 100 yards with 36gr mini mags. The H001 rifle shoots about the same. 3EB135A4-EBD6-4A98-AF47-80DE68C8859A_1_201_a.jpeg
 
Depending on your intended use, 1 hole at 25 yards with dirt cheap ammo might be a blessing.

I have a buddy who's probably a more notorious tinkerer than me.

He's got a 10/22 that he refuses to do any kind of modification to at all because of how well it shoots blazer and thunderbolt bulk packs.

He's like the opinion that "yes, it could shoot better ammo into smaller groups, but then I'd be stuck having to find and buy more expensive, harder to find ammo."

Which I absolutely cannot find fault in.
 
I have a buddy who's probably a more notorious tinkerer than me.

He's got a 10/22 that he refuses to do any kind of modification to at all because of how well it shoots blazer and thunderbolt bulk packs.

He's like the opinion that "yes, it could shoot better ammo into smaller groups, but then I'd be stuck having to find and buy more expensive, harder to find ammo."

Which I absolutely cannot find fault in.
One of my brothers is just like that.
 
I’ll move out to 50 yards when I test the regular ammo. I wanted to use 25 for the low noise CB and Short rounds as I didn’t have high expectations. Since mounting the scope it will shoot one hole at 25 yards with my chosen Thunderbolt ammo. I have a good variety now so I though my I’d see if it could do better.
 
I've got one of those Henry's H001 rifles too. I've found mine to be very accurate out to 50 yards or so with a wide variety of ammo. I've had more trouble with it feeding 22lr, since it started its life shooting exclusively CBs.
 
Mines seen mostly Thunderbolt or Aguila Super Extra HV. I’d like to try some Interceptor or Velocitor but I’m not paying what they want for 22 LR. I was hoping the low noise and 22 Short rounds would shoot a little better. They shot at 25 yards about like the Thunderbolt shoots at 50. I want to try some Quiet or Quiet Semi-Auto to see if they can do a little better but they’re hard to come by right now.
 
I did the 50 yard test yesterday. I tried a variety of on-hand ammo: Aguila SE HV Red Box, Aguila SE SV Blue Box, CCI MiniMag, CCI SV, and an impulse purchase of Norma Tac Target at 1080 fps.

The most accurate so far appears to be Aguila SE HV. Second best was the Aguila SE SV. The Norma put three shots touching then two below pretty close. I kinda think that might be me and my aiming. The Norma is the cheapest locally available 22 so that might be the choice for a bit. I have a good stock of the Red Box Aguila anyway.

Realistically they all shot pretty close and the Aguila Red Box had one round that sounded really off and I couldn’t find the hole in paper. These were all shot rested from 50 yards with a Simmons fixed 4x scope, which I have found to be a good option. My last Simmons took a fall and this one seems a good replacement.
 
Never did any formal comparison ammo testing with my Henry H001 because it seems to shoot just about anything good. Although a few years ago it had a Tasco Red Dot on it for about a year and that was when I began to notice how some brands of ammo seemed to group tighter than others versus when I was using the iron sights. I should have made some notes about it before I took the Red Dot off. All I can recall now is that it seemed to really like the Federal Auto Match 22LR, which the OP has some of and I hope we can find out how well that is in his Henry H001. Keep us posted.
 
Here’s the obligatory photo. From top left to bottom right: MiniMag, CCI SV, Aguila SE Blue, Aguila SE Red, and Norma Tac Target.

The Aguila Red might have 5 shots but only 4 are clearly there. In any case, Aguila was the winner though the MiniMags were close.
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There aren’t many decent 22s that won’t do quarter sized groups at 25 yards. Fifty is where the gun/ammo start to perform, or not. 100 is the test of both plus your ability to focus, hold and read wind. My stable, a CZ456, Win 52 (from the 20’s, a built up 10-22 with Shaw/Bentz, Jard, etc, and a TC carbine match barrel 22 will all, when I’m on, the wind cooperates and each one’s preferred ammo will do one hole 1/2” at fifty and when I’m really good, not often these days, an inch to inch and a half at 100. I wish I had my 21 year old eyes and nerves in my 78 year old body.
 
I’m a little disappointed with the CCI SV. It’s ok though. I have a scoped Marlin 60 that shoots it very well. The usual ammo for this rifle is Thunderbolt. I’m still working through a 500 round box I bought before Covid. It shoots those about as well as the MiniMags.
 
Never did any formal comparison ammo testing with my Henry H001 because it seems to shoot just about anything good. Although a few years ago it had a Tasco Red Dot on it for about a year and that was when I began to notice how some brands of ammo seemed to group tighter than others versus when I was using the iron sights. I should have made some notes about it before I took the Red Dot off. All I can recall now is that it seemed to really like the Federal Auto Match 22LR, which the OP has some of and I hope we can find out how well that is in his Henry H001. Keep us posted.

I regrettably didn’t test the Automatch as I was saving it for my iron sighted Marlin 60. However it ran in that gun like a 3 legged dog. I will definitely try it in the Henry now though.

I also cannot tell much of a difference between ammo using the iron sights, which were their own thread on this Henry. I’m planning to swap the scope over to the Marlin for testing. I’ve been using the iron sighted Marlin for Rimfire Silhouette competitions but yesterdays performance requires further exploration. That will give me some time on the Henry with the iron sights.
 
I tried the Automatch in the Henry today. It did about as well as the Aguila HV SE. I ended up switching zeros so the Henry is zeroed for the Automatch. The Marlin is now zeroed for the Aguila Red SE because it was having trouble cycling the Automatch.
 
You find with Smallbore Prone and 22 lr F Class shooters that ammunition perfection is a utopic dream. The best shooters test a lot of lots of expensive match ammunition to find the very best. They are looking for ammunition that holds half the ten ring, and for F Class shooters, that may be beyond the capability of the ammunition.

Very good match ammunition will hold the ten ring at 50 yards and never leave. These are two targets on the same relay by two National Champs shooting prone with a sling. Each bull has five rounds for record, making the total number of shots 20.

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this is the 50 meter target by one of these shooters

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These guys are shooting very expensive ammunition through very expensive rifles and I am skeptical that any lever action is capable of this level of consistency even with high priced ammunition.

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When I have conducted my own testing with cheap match ammunition, I find low velocity shots happen.

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an F Class bud was using TAC and had this amazing low velocity shot at 100 yards

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he decided that cheap ammunition was not going to work for him, so he purchased Eley Black box and got much better results

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I did take my CCI SV out and shoot it in a match rifle to see how it would do with a rest. Shot surprisingly well

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If your ammunition will consistently hold an inch at 50 yards, that is good enough for all the squirrel hunting I ever did. When I tested my ruger 10/22 with its factory barrel, it was very sensitive to brand of ammunition, and I really did not detect the sensitivity until I moved the target out to 50 yards. When I had a Volquartsen barrel installed, the differences between ammunition groups lessened, and which ammunition shot best was racked and restacked. Whereas match ammunition was not so great in the factory barrel, it shot super duper well in the Volquartsen barrel. A better tube shoots better ammunition better.
 
Now that 22 is more available and cheaper I plan to shoot more of it. For keeping track of improved scores I think I’ll keep using the 50 yard small bore targets.

With the Henry I might be able to hold groups about an inch at 50 with the best ammo but probably not for 10 or 20 in a row. That’s with a 4x scope though.

The Marlin has Tech Sights and I use it for local silhouette competitions. With those sights I doubt I can hold the 8 ring for that many but I’m also convinced a large part is me. It will sometimes do 1” groups of 5 at 50 yards but then blows out to 2” or so. That will still let me hit all but the smallest targets on the Silhouette rack. It’s pretty much dialed in for that so I need to improvise some silhouettes and actually practice.
 
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