CCW because of so many sex offenders?

Would it work or help to say, I want to be able to protect myself and my wife and children from this kind of danger?

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It really depends on whether you live in a shall-issue state or not.

The best thing to do would be to check packing.org for the particular state you are interested in. Lots of good information there. Also, here is a link from the state of TX on CHL permits: DPS link on CHL.

By making that statement it could be see by some ninny that reviews these that you have a particular predjudice. Why even go there? Do you think it might aid in the approval process? Chances are it wont.

Just state that it is for personal protection. If you only want it to protect your kids from scumbags you have not been watching the rest of the news (or seen that nearly all kids are abducted from their homes in these high profile cases. And you dont need a CCW at home....).

Whether or not you get [ahem] "approved" for a CCW license is HIGHLY dependent not only on your state (Shall Issue/May Issue/No CCW allowed) but also on the issuing authority, whatever L.E.A. that may be. In Ohio, you jump through all the hoops and apply to the County Of Residence or Adjacent County Sheriff.

Packing.org is a great place to start looking for info, and probably the Attorney General of your state. Ohio's AG website has the info for Ohio, and also publishes a pamplet on the CCW law. I would reasonably guess that your home state does the same.

HTH

My wife and I got our permits to carry and two of the reasons are because of the recent publicity of small children being kidnapped and winding up dead, and all the sex offenders that are out there. Another reason is the recent rash of homicides in this area, such as six in eleven days in a town 45 minutes from the house.

I did a search of registered sex offenders within a few miles of our house, and we found out that there is one on the street running parallel from ours and three houses down (our backyard is against the backyard of the house behind us on the other street - he's about 150 yrds from our backyard). I also found out that there is another one, on that same street, but about ten doors down in the other direction. :banghead: One of them is registered for doing things to children under the age of ten, and with the cutest little 6-month old at the house, we both want to be prepared to protect her.

Also, to top this off, the wife is handicapped and has to walk with the assistance of a cane or a single crutch, and keeping the child seat in the rear on the passenger's side, it wouldn't be difficult for someone to hijack the car when my wife is on the passenger's side, or take our daughter while my wife is on the drivers side. We've discussed putting the seat behind the driver, but then she can't tend to/check on our daughter as easily, either.

Anyway, we both have permits, go to the range at least twice a month, and we also have situational hostage targets where we get to practise head-shots while avoiding shooting the hostage. The wife is a pretty good shot with her .380, 9mm, and 44 mag, so I feel sorry for anyone trying anything stupid around her.

Maybe you could send me to the Texas requirements?

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No need to justify your desire for a Texas CHL. If you are qualified they will issue one.

I don't think OH asks for a reason either, but "Personal Protection" should be sufficient.

Some Sheriffs will give you problems anyway, but we can go to neighboring counties....

IMHO, the folks who need protection against sex offenders aren't generally considered old enough to get permits anyway.... College students, on campus, and travelling between home & school, of course, and younger kids too. (Major can of worms, but if they're old enough to be trusted with the family behemoth....)

(A friend of mine wanted a Ford Subdivision or whatever it's called. He couldn't do it - he lives in Rhode Island and there isn't enough room there to turn one around....)

(Yeah, I know, but I've been saving that one for years. )

IMHO, again, putting down anything for a "reason" that's not really vague is asking for somebody to get the wrong idea.

Regards,

Yes, Texas is shall issue. You will not have to explain to anyone why you want a CHL.

Go to this link: www.txdps.state.tx.us/administration/crime_records/chl/chlsindex.htm

Basically, you have to fill out basic application forms, take the course, get some pictures and photos taken, and send the whole thing in with money. Assuming the background checks come in clean, the fingerprints are OK with the FBI, then about 60 days later you get your permit.

TX CHL will cost you $140 nonrefundable to the state, and usually around $100 to your instructor to take the course & get pics & prints. In DFW, I recommend The Bullet Trap.
www.bullettrapinc.com

If it's any consolation, a CCW is the last thing you will probably need to fend off a sexual predator. Your biggest asset is to teach your kids to be alert, stay away from folks they don't know, and scream like hell if they feel threatened. In addition, you need to be alert at all times. Confront a sexual predator and he/she will most likely tear ass and run away. You won't need a gun.

Greg

Good for you and the whole family, Kramer Krazy!

oh brother.

As far as I understand (and w/ 3 sex offenders in my extended family I have reason to do some digging), violence is a rarity in pedophelia cases, though power and control issues abound.

As far as needing a CCW because of pedophiles? The best way I can answer that is a story my PO told me.

The local DOC office was getting a lot of calls about 2 months ago because a local sex offender admitted his past to his church. So many concerned parents called in to see what they needed to do in order to be safe and to keep their families safe.

That's fine, good, and an appropriate goal.

Anyway, my PO got one of these calls, and the conversation went something like this:

"What can I do to protect my children?"
Her: "Keep them away from your family and friends. If anyone's going to commit a sex crime against them, that's who it's going to be."

I watch inmates of all stripes get released every day - they are why I carry a gun. I have read the files of what some of them have done. Some of it Hollywood couldn't imagine...."Silence of The Lambs" was just the beginning....

If it's any consolation, a CCW is the last thing you will probably need to fend off a sexual predator.

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True.

Your biggest asset is to teach your kids to be alert, stay away from folks they don't know, and scream like hell if they feel threatened.

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False.

The myth of "stranger danger" imperils millions of kids a year.

Here's a nice summary (from here. The emphasis is mine.

Strangers commit only three percent of all sexual assaults against children under five. Sexual assault rises to 10 percent for children ages 12 to 17. Strangers perpetrate 30 percent of sexual assaults on adults older than 24.
Stranger-wise, the safest time in a person’s life is at the beginning. Yet we behave otherwise.

The same myth also applies to the murder of children. On average, only three percent of all children under five are murdered by strangers. Again, the likelihood of all stranger-related violence climbs steadily through the age of 34.

Familiar danger, however, the potential embodied by those familiar to us, nearly always outweighs stranger danger, and sometimes horribly so. With adult women, the disproportion of intimate versus stranger violence is startling: according to the FBI, women are 12 times more likely to be murdered by a family member or acquaintance than a stranger.

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Get a CCW.

However, you shouldn't think it'll help you protect your kids against pedophiles. To use a CCW, you need to be there when the threat occurs. But, in this sort of situation, the threat will only materialize when you're not around.

The recent cable-TV fixation on a few cases of child murder have nothing to dod with any actual trend. The upshot of the media frenzy is to make the lives of children in the US even more isolated and controllled for no good reason. When I grew up in the 1970's and early 80's, I would run around in the woods with no adult supervision whatsoever. These day's everything is structured and controlled. I don't see this as a good trend.

By all means, get a CCW license. But don't get paranoid.

Did someone actually say "violence is a rarity in pedophilia cases"?

Forcible penetration of a child's body is pretty violent, don't you think? Coercing submission by threat or shame does not make it one bit less violent or one bit less forcible. It would seem to be 100% violent. I am flabbergasted that someone actually fails to understand that.

The recent cable-TV fixation on a few cases of child murder have nothing to dod with any actual trend.

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I was wondering about this. I wonder this all the time now, after knowing the misleading and fact fudging that goes on with things like the .50's and the Five-Seven. Is there a sudden problem with child molesters, or is the media looking for a story? Is there a surge in the pregnant women disappearing, or is that simply the stoy that happened to come across on a slow news week? Are more sharks really killing people than before?

Did someone actually say "violence is a rarity in pedophilia cases"?

Forcible penetration of a child's body is pretty violent, don't you think? Coercing submission by threat or shame does not make it one bit less violent or one bit less forcible. It would seem to be 100% violent. I am flabbergasted that someone actually fails to understand that.

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I read it more to mean that a child being forcibly taken from the parent. Seems that most cases involve a child disappearing while playing on their own, or being abducted in the night, or taken while visiting someone, than someone walking up to you, pointing a gun at you and throwing your child in a van.

It's hard to tell if it a "trend" or just the news story of the week.

I CAN tell you if you live in Missouri your going to see a large increase in the number of sex offenders in your community. Prisons are full, no new contruction planed, and the insitutions are dumping them on the streets as faster than ever. In one small area I work went from under 20 on supervison to over 45 in less than 18 months...

Get a CCW.

However, you shouldn't think it'll help you protect your kids against pedophiles. To use a CCW, you need to be there when the threat occurs. But, in this sort of situation, the threat will only materialize when you're not around.

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Yeah, but remember that the whole idea of the CCW is to keep the BG's off balance - so that they never know that Granny isn't packing....

(Not to mention what happens to the BG's if the try Granny.... )

While the kids aren't likely to be packing under such circumstances (good or bad, we've got laws against it), I think there are two pluses:

1. Granny or any adult nearby may be able to respond to the criminal activity. (A friend of mine, retired LEO, was once described as "looks like your kindly old Grandpa, but don't screw with him unless you've got a deathwish.)

2. The kids themselves are conditioned to the presence of firearms, and may find an opportunity to use them to gain their freedom.

Wishful thinking to a degree, and #2 is both a little unlikely and terminally frightening to the blissninnies, but either beats the heck out of "pick out the kid's casket."

Such incidents are rare, but it wouldn't hurt to make them rarer....

The recent cable-TV fixation on a few cases of child murder have nothing to do with any actual trend. The upshot of the media frenzy is to make the lives of children in the US even more isolated and controllled for no good reason. When I grew up in the 1970's and early 80's, I would run around in the woods with no adult supervision whatsoever. These day's everything is structured and controlled. I don't see this as a good trend.

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Unfortunately, some of this control may be necessary anyway today. There are a lot more threats out there, and a lot more places "we shouldn't go".... I was just thinking about that the other day. We've had a spate of inter-family feuds in the area involving gunfire, some of which was directed at Police. The folks involved used to carry straight razors and kill each other at short range. AK-style weapons now....

Wanna make the Misled Mommies lose it? When I was in First Grade, there were High School kids on the School Bus with rifles! Rifle Team's .22's and when hunting season started, kids who were taking their deer rifles out after school. Maybe, on a really bad day, somebody'd get one dropped on their toe while juggling the rifle and some school books

In a search to eliminate all hazards, we forget that life occasionally requires us to take unexpected casualties, and instead try to remove almost everything in a child's life that's remotely risky. (Sometimes stupidly, by trying to make belive that the hazards don't exist, and then absolutely losing it when something avoidable happens. Resulting in a push to ban guns, usually, even if the kid got hit by a schoolbus.)

I'm surprised we don't require seatbelts on bicycles....

(Yeah - we probably should make the kids wear helmets. The question, really, is whether we let 'em on the bikes at all. Some places this is common sense today. Some places it's just plain silly.)

Don't forget that sensational news, even if it isn't, sells soap, newspapers, magazines, etc. A nice juicy murder is a lot better from the media's standpoint than about any "save". Unless the kid caps the BG. Then the media will screw it up and push for banning guns....

Cynic-R-Us tonight, I guess....