OUTRAGE: HOW THE POLICE SEE "THEM" CITIZENS (Tapco's latest catalog)

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Vermont,

I'm asking the because I really don't understand:

What exactly are you reading into that picture?
-That it's an FBI or ATF breaching team assaulting some private, law-abiding citizen's home?
-That it's a SWAT/SED team closing in on criminals?

To be honest I don't see anything any more nefarious than HK's posed "tactical PR" shots.



B.
 
I am totally outraged that SWAT team is having to enter to the house to save the diabetic toddler that is about to go dangerously hypoglycemic while being held hostage by her mentally disturbed estranged mother who missed her medication for the last three days and has already gravely injured her ex-husband with a very pointy stick and says she'll poke again.

What did you expect, guys in full tac-gear rescuing a stranded kitten from a tree?

I would say you either need to set your outrage threshold a bit higher or at least reorder your list. Frankly, most reasonable people would be more outraged by my run-on sentence than that picture.
 
In my opinion, I think you are on the wrong forum.

I don't think your posting is relevant to any purpose this place supports, nor do I think it deserves any serious response.
 
I think several of the responses are evidence of what the war on americans possessing CERTAIN drugs has done to the mentality of the people of this nation.
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is it just me or is this a statement that might help explain the thinking of Vermont carry? (feel free to crrect me if I am wrong)

I see that picture and I see law enforcement officer's Counducting a perfectly leagal raid on a dwelling that is belived to contain individuals that are or have broken the law and have made it obvious that use of force is the ONLY way to aprehend the offenders while attempting to insure the lives of officers and anyone else involved.
 
the village called they want thier idiot back
Now THAT'S a High Road comment if I've ever seen one.
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I know. People like that prove my point that AVOIDANCE is the name of the game. Not only that but the ENTIRE THREAD always gets threatened with closure just because of someone like that.

BrennanKG, I believe I have been extremely clear many times in this thread. Since you are one of the few who are polite and are not playing avoidance/denial games, I will respond.

You are making certain SPECIFIC conclusions about the pic that I never did. I simply say that it conveys an extremely unsettling MENTALITY, that is intentionally, and unmistakenly conveyed from the obvious point of view of "law enforcement." Again, I refer you (and others) to the last sentence of my first post that no one wants to deal with (vaguely insulting it as one poster did, is not dealing with the issue I raised)

Based on the responses so far, no one has taken much effort to (without immature mockery) to logically tell me where I'm wrong. The fact that there has been a lot of veiled (and not so veiled) flaming at me, just confirms what I believe.
 
We aren't avoiding anything... We just think you're a not-so-smart "OMG POLICE STATE" conspiracy theorist :scrutiny:

We offer our opinion as to what it appears to be, and you go insane because we disagree with you.

OH NOES!
 
I personally see something very wrong with this picture,

that rifle's muzzle is way to close to the guy holding the shield's ear, even if he had hearing protection, ouch, that is going to hurt if the other guy takes a shot.

as far as the intent of the persons in the pic, who knows, who cares, doesn;t matter to me or bother me in the slightest. They say a picture is worth a thousand words, but those words can just as easily be wrong as right. I say this is no reason to get all worked up over.

Now if they had MLB patches on, then you know you are in trouble, we all know that MLB reads out minds with satelites and have tac teams around the country to crack down on people who don't watch enough baseball. :neener:
 
It is unlikely that you will find anyone, anywhere, more anti-government than myself. But your comments, especally considering your newbie status, are only coming off as ignorant and shrill. You're not winning any allies here.

- Chris
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Logically, my "newbie status" has ZERO to do with the point I have made and you know it. The question, is why on earth would you try to make an issue out of my "newbie status" (talk about a cheap attack)?

Chris, you may be "anti government" sir, but you just demonstrated that you are VERY VERY PRO GROUPTHINK. Your entire post assumes that I give a rat's behind what the group thinks about my observations. Your entire post assumes that I am "trying to win allies" (a very clear statement of groupthink). Calling me "ignorant and shrill" is flaming, and TOTAL avoidance of the topic (and you know it).
 
All i see in that pic is a LEO covering the house watching for threats. If you are going into a house looking for bad guys who want to kill you, your weapon will not do much good pointing at the ground.
 
Would the folks who have responded so far please come back and respond to the last sentence in my FIRST post. So far either no one read that last sentence, or they are scared to answer.
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Look I get it, there's more money in sucking up to government, but this pic is an insult. What would happen if GOA sent out a catalog for their videos with a citizen aiming at a government building (I would write a check that day)?
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I didn't address address the last sentence of your first post because I assumed it was rhetorical. I apologize for the mistake.

A mocked up government building? I have no idea.

An actual, ie specific, gov building? I imagine the results would be nothing good if there was no prior explanation.

That said, I am no lawyer (haven't even played one of TV).


B.
 
That picture reminds me of how I just don't get the whole putting a front pistol-grip on a rifle thing. I'll admit that I've never fired a rifle that was configured that way because I don't own one with said accessory, nobody in my family does, and neither do any of my friends. But I have handled a few at gun shows and found the configuration terribly uncomfortable.

Anyone care to explain why that's currently so popular?
 
Way to miss the point by a couple of country miles. That pic conveys a MINDSET and a certain VIEWPOINT that I think most people are afraid to deal with. I'm not asking about the logistics of HOW they took the picture.
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Oh, I'm sorry.
You're right.
Clearly the image tries to convey that all people in houses are criminals.
Just like every person with a gun is a murderer.
Just like every man with 'man parts' is a rapist...
I could keep going.
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I'll clarify a bit.
Basically what you're doing is the same thing the anti-gunners do.
Paint the whole group in the dark light that is the minority.
 
Perhaps VC's reaction to the pic is because he could not deal with that particular scenerio? If that is the case, you need to go shopping dude!

Three Takked Out guys behind a wimpy little shield doesn't seem all that threatening if it were ME inside waiting for them....which means that I have done something to bring them to my doorstep. Like, maybe harboring a juvenile Cuban lad that the President wants to send back to Uncle Fidel. Oh, sorry....that was the LAST administration.

Anyhow, isn't this the whole meaning behind the 2nd Amendment? Ability to defend oneself from the 'Man' if it is deemed necessary?

Wondering what kind of protection that shield actually provides? Doubt that it would stop anything AP from a large rifle.
 
A little off-topic but...

That picture reminds me of how I just don't get the whole putting a front pistol-grip on a rifle thing. I'll admit that I've never fired a rifle that was configured that way because I don't own one with said accessory, nobody in my family does, and neither do any of my friends. But I have handled a few at gun shows and found the configuration terribly uncomfortable.

Anyone care to explain why that's currently so popular?
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Because it looks cool and was a good idea to someone?

But I recently read a report that this vertical forehand grip is causing problems. If I recall correctly, it is putting a "bending" stress on the receiver and bolt, causing the top locking lugs to not engage properly. If i can find the reference I will post it. But I would be surprised if it's not on THR already.
 
Look I get it, there's more money in sucking up to government, but this pic is an insult. What would happen if GOA sent out a catalog for their videos with a citizen aiming at a government building (I would write a check that day)?
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*** are you talking about?
Tapco sells Tacticool gear. SWAT teams are a possible customer for said gear. Any reasonable person who sees that picture will assume it's just a random SWAT team assaulting a house full of imaginary baddies.

Tin-foil hat conspiracists see "JBTs" assaulting a house full of law abiding citizens who just want to be free.
 
First, thank you BrennanKG, that is exactly the kind of logical, respectful post that should ONLY be in this thread.
 
American By Blood said:
That picture reminds me of how I just don't get the whole putting a front pistol-grip on a rifle thing. I'll admit that I've never fired a rifle that was configured that way because I don't own one with said accessory, nobody in my family does, and neither do any of my friends. But I have handled a few at gun shows and found the configuration terribly uncomfortable.

Anyone care to explain why that's currently so popular?
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I actually went out and bought a front grip for one of my rifles. It is around here somewhere in the back of a drawer. I have no idea as to an answer to your question. but I could come up with some smart aleck comments :rolleyes: I'll be interested if anybody has any real, good, information.
 
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