There is just so much wrong with this...

Status
Not open for further replies.

ebd10

Member
Joined
Jun 2, 2005
Messages
359
Location
South Dakota
http://thestarpress.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070312/NEWS06/70312009


Lawsuit: SWAT team, Armed & Famous crew broke into wrong home
THE STAR PRESS
21 Comments


MUNCIE — The city’s SWAT team, along with celebrity cops and camera crews from Armed & Famous, broke into the wrong home during a search for two fugitives and kept an innocent woman handcuffed for 30 minutes, according to legal documents.

The woman, Lyndsay Clements, 22, has issued a notice of tort claim through her Indianapolis attorney, Michael K. Sutherlin. A tort claim is the first step toward suing a government agency and is required to give that agency warning of impending litigation.

The tort claim alleges that police entered Clements’s duplex, 826 1/2 W. Main St., around 12:30 a.m. on Dec. 12, 2007, while Clements was dressed in a nightgown and watching television alone.

During that time, various officers repeatedly interrogated Clements while she was handcuffed about the whereabouts of people named “Dustin and Jessica,” the claim said.

“Eventually, the officers realized that they were at the wrong apaprtment,” Sutherlin wrote.

Clements believes the actual target of the search was 626 1/2 W. Main St.

Footage of the incident appeared Jan. 11 on Armed & Famous, including scenes showing police staked outside Clements’s apartment, police rushing into her apartment and then someone in handcuffs with no explanation that would show the suspects were not caught at her apartment, the claim alleges.

Clements said La Toya Jackson and Jack Osbourne were involved.
 
This is sick. A lot of people should lose their jobs, and imo executed for terrorism.

There is ZERO room for error when it comes to law enforcement.

...and the television shows.....ugh....I have nothing wrong with cameras be mandatory for raids as a testament to what happened, but not for entertainment purposes.
 
Mistakes will happen, however, what scares me is if I had been woken up in the dead of night I probably would of unloaded a magazine at them the way they barge in. For this I probably would of been shot and nothing would of came of it.
 
There is ZERO room for error when it comes to law enforcement.

Uhhh.. yeah. Normatively speaking perhaps. Just like there is ZERO room for error when it comes to surgery, banking, flying commercial passenger aircraft, etc.

There are over 800,000 sworn law enforcement officers in this country. To honestly expect that these types of things will not happen is pretty optimistic.

executed for terrorism

:rolleyes:
 
Some time back a guy's farm was raided and the officers, who I think were federal, brought the camera crews. He sued, and the courts made it plain that a warrant does not give police the right to bring non-LEOs along. If that's what happened, some money will change hands. I can't remember the location or year, but a search would probably turn it up.
 
Can you say RETIREMENT
-The CelebrIdiots are 'sworn in' I don't know about the camera crew.

I'd sue the PANTS of the CelebrIdiots also.
 
Just another isolated incident, nothing to see here.;)

Just like there is ZERO room for error when it comes to surgery, banking, flying commercial passenger aircraft, etc.

Except that those are all activities that you consent to doing, and are given the facts about possible consequences. And none of those activities strip you of your civil rights while some hollywood imbeciles make millions at the cost of you physical and emotional well being.:barf:
 
Except that those are all activities that you consent to doing, and are given the facts about possible consequences. And none of those activities strip you of your civil rights while some hollywood imbeciles make millions at the cost of you physical and emotional well being.

I disagree vigorously with entertainment reality police TV.

In terms of police mistakes: you as a tax-paying citizen are afforded a service by your LE agencies. If you honestly believe that they are somehow vested with any special ability to transcend the commission of error in a way that any other professional providing a service is not, you are deluding yourself.
 
They screwed up. It's on the TV show. They cannot, and apparently do not, deny it.

These things can and will happen. It sucks, and it's a dangerous situation for everyone involved.

They owe her some compensation. Pay up, move on, and try to get it right the next time.
 
Clements said La Toya Jackson and Jack Osbourne were involved.

I just saw this line ... are you freakin' kidding me? I don't care care how many LEO are at my door, La Toya and Jack Osbourne are NOT coming any where on my property.

And I mean that. :fire:

What the hell is this country coming to?
 
Nomad said:
I'd sue the PANTS of the CelebrIdiots also.

You wouldn't get any money. Why do you think these washed up D-list celebrities are doing the show? :p
 
Which service is it that includes having B list celebrities accompany the police as they kick in the wrong door and hold an innocent civilian in handcuffs while being filmed for my entertainment cover??

Just want to be sure I'm getting my moneys worth.:rolleyes:
 
i had heard that they actualy give these "armed and famous" people loaded wepons when they take them out.

if thats true. what happens if one of them gets trigger happy and shoots an innocent person. in this situation. it could have been possable. they were told these people could be dangerous they would be on edge..

sheesh. id for sure be sueing.
 
Which service is it that includes having B list celebrities accompany the police as they kick in the wrong door and hold an innocent civilian in handcuffs while being filmed for my entertainment cover??

Just want to be sure I'm getting my moneys worth.

America is a voracious animal my friend. She gets what she wants.

No one sells anything succesfully that someone isn't waiting in line to buy.
 
Yea, I just wasn't aware that the police were in the entertainment bidness my friend.

Sadly, some LE agencies have been in the entertainment business for a very long time. I think it's appalling personally.

But then again, I think it's appalling that the millitary, the medical professions, the behavioral sciences, the ministry, the funeral industry, and any number of other professions that we would like to think of as "above" this type of conduct have representation in the entertainment industry in America.

Like I say... it's appalling.
 
Negligent, Call it Criminal Negligent, kidnapping, assault with a deadly weapon.

Serve a warrant on the wrong house you have to be the STUPDIST cop on the force.

Bring on the apologists but it will only make the officers look more incompetent hiding behind their own.
 
Negligent, Call it Criminal Negligent, kidnapping, assault with a deadly weapon.

Serve a warrant on the wrong house you have to be the STUPDIST cop on the force.

Bring on the apologists but it will only make the officers look more incompetent hiding behind their own.

I don't know that anyone is trying to hide anything. They made a stupid mistake. These types of errors take place daily all over the country every day in every profession. I am surprised that you are shocked.
 
You wouldn't get any money. Why do you think these washed up D-list celebrities are doing the show?

Ozzy Osbourne's kid needs money? :rolleyes:

Negligent, Call it Criminal Negligent, kidnapping, assault with a deadly weapon.

I can understand it if there's an honest mistake made. If they were supposed to go to 626 W Main, and they wound up at 626 1/2 W Main St instead. But to misread 826 for 626? C'mon... In my mind, this qualifies as "all of the above"...
 
The city should loose their SWAT team period.
The upper echelons of police management should loose their jobs and be held liable for civil damages.
The person in charge of finding the right address should be issued a white cane and maybe a blind dog.
 
In terms of police mistakes: you as a tax-paying citizen are afforded a service by your LE agencies. If you honestly believe that they are somehow vested with any special ability to transcend the commission of error in a way that any other professional providing a service is not, you are deluding yourself.

I'd agree with you - if this wasn't already a circus.
Everything I know about the police, I learned from the police.
Here, I learned that the police are for sale.
That puts any commission of error in a very different perspective for me.
 
What a great idea! The one episode of Armed & Famous I watched was dull and boring, but I think that this new approach has real potential.

I'd watch the show if they would have the SWAT team break down the door of a different wrong residence each week and terrify the innocent residents. It would be interesting to watch them protest their innocence while the good guys stomp around and break things. Lots of closeups of intimate apparel, women crying, and kids watching their parents abused would add certainly add human interest. Maybe the show could be retitled Unarmed & Helpless.

The usual disclaimer about presumption of innocence should be rewritten to something like "These suspects were innocent." And it would be great to fade out on a slide that read "To Protect and to Serve" while a voiceover said "Support your police ... they have a tough job ... but they are the only people ... in this room ... competent to carry a Glock Forty."

There's only one appropriate narrator for this show now: Lee Paige of the DEA. But there should be guest appearances by Michael Bloomberg, Chuck Schumer, Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, John Kerry, Ted Kennedy .... The possibilities are endless. Sponsors like Ben & Jerry would rush to buy time.

It's always fascinating to watch people attempt to excuse the inexcusable.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top