pro-gun AND pro-microstamping?

I think you need to define the word pro-gun. It means so many different things to so many different people.

I think what he means by pro-gun is "pro-individual right to gun ownership" and by anti-microstamping what he really means is pro-liberty.

Microstamping of guns is analagous to requiring a breathalyzer to be installed in every car.

Yeah, remember Kerry saying how much he supported the 2nd Amendment????

The inventor of microstamping says he's a member of the NRA. Then again, so do all politicians who are accused of being anti-gun. Anyone notice how Romney became a member shortly after entering the candidate race?

People who claim to be pro-gun and pro-microstamping think that microstamping will only hinder criminals (it is the other way around, it will only be harmful to legit owners) and thinking that it's a 'compromise' with the 'sensible gun law' community. It is just like the other 'compromises' made - they are incremental steps in the direction of gun control, but yet there are no steps back. Compromise is tit for tat. The gun laws being passed are not compromises, they're forfeitures.

In short, they're a bunch of Zumbos. Perhaps they're rifle shooters who think that if they support the Brady Bunch witchhunt on handgun owners they'll be allowed to keep their rifles longer than otherwise.

In short, they're a bunch of Zumbos

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Well not really, Zumbo of all people should have known better.

To a completely uneducated (gun wise) politico off the street microstamping sounds great.

Most politicians see Pro2A=ProHunting.

If anyone except a few of us pro-2A types would read the FBI report on guns and crime it would be clear that this stuff won't work.

Not one of the criminals in that report said they bought their weapons through legitimate channels.

'Course you won't hear that one on the evening news......

I feel that the only 2 reasons for a serial number on a firearm are for manufacturing recalls, and tracking in case of theft, but NOT for registering to an owner.

I am shocked at the way this poll is going. There's actually one anti on high Road?

There's actually one anti on high Road?

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Oh I GUARANTEE there is more than 1. That's why it's always important to take "The High Road" so they can't say we are all a bunch of gun crazed ignorant folks.

When faced with clear thinking and well structured arguments, most anti's have to fold and go home.

Too bad Hollywood and the media are so anti-gun. The microstamping bill would be a great topic for a comedy/spoof/satire. Any politician that thinks crimes will be either prevented or solved must be convinced of the existence of the all powerful tooth fairy.

You can't be pro-gun and pro-microstamping. The two concepts are diametrically opposed to each other.

Microstamping will be responsible for reducing the numbers of guns available for private sales due to economics.

I agree with stevelyn...This is a silly poll.

You could have just narrowed it down to:

1. pro-gun

2. pro-microstamping.



But silly or not, I still voted.

My question is... Which one of you is the Anti infiltrator?

I think its Joffe. What do we know about him? 24 posts and from Europe. He wants to take our guns and turn our country over to the U.N.!!! Lets burn him at the stake!!!

I'd also like to know the one who is pro micro stamping, and why he/she is pro microstamping.

For me its pro gun, anti micro stamping.

Mr White, the only reason my location says Europe is because of all the three letter agencies that would detain me and do bad things to me if I tried to set up and make a living in the land of the free, home of the brave.

Regarding those votes -- I've seen various antis post here attempting to argue. They quickly give up, though. Perhaps they're the ones voting

Mr White, the only reason my location says Europe is because of all the three letter agencies that would detain me and do bad things to me if I tried to set up and make a living in the land of the free, home of the brave.

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Maybe you would like to explain this one to me.

I just think microstamping is just silly in that it will only be a speedbump to most criminals with a brain enough to get rid of the microstamp, or to swap parts.

I'll admit I hate when pro-gunners are over the top anti-gun control. I got into a heated argument with a Rambo pro gunner that felt that VIOLENT convicted felons and the mentally deranged should not be barred from owning a firearm. There are abusive gun laws , but some are just common sense.

i'm pro-gun and pro-microstamping 1 0.83%
i'm pro-gun and against microstamping 119 98.35%
i'm anti-gun and pro-microstamping 1 0.83%
i'm anti-gun and against microstamping 0 0%

Diversity and THR should be synonymous.

Some issues with microstamping.

1. Why is law enforcement exempt?
2. It's easy to defeat - a few seconds with abrsive
3. You won't be able to force criminals to comply. See Haynes vs. New Jersey.

If only law abiding citizens will be effected by microstamping, why bother?

Why is law enforcement exempt?

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Law enforcement isn't SPECIFICALLY exempt from microstamping.

Microstamping is required to get on the CA DOJ approved list.

LE was already exempt from having to purchase from that list, so the LE exemptions go back a lot further than microstamping.

Now, I agree with you they should not be exempt, but that discussion didn't come up as part of the Microstamping business since it was already in place.

I'm pro-gun and against microstamping

I'll bet everyone in CA who's an honest shooter will be picking up EVERY last piece of their brass at the range after 2010!!!!

On the other hand, if you were a criminal, somehow able to procure a legal handgun in your name to commit crimes, you should also buy all the range brass you can find, and throw handfulls out the window whenever you go on a shooting spree

Microstamping is back door disarmament.

If the courts do not strike this as unconstitutional, then it's probably time to use the Second Amendment as it was originally intended!!

If it's time to bury 'em, it's time to use 'em!!

Who on THR is anti-gun? That just doesn't make any sense, why waste your time like that?

Microstamping is just another attempt to start a chain reaction of laws that will end up destroying the second amendment. This will not do anything to affect crime, no good can come of this.

Who on THR is anti-gun? That just doesn't make any sense, why waste your time like that?

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I've said it a thousand times. Any person capable of rational thought CANNOT be anti, the arguments just don't exist to be that way in any sane, thought out manner.

BUT, the fact that they would come here to try to understand why we think the way we do makes sense to me.

Unfortunately I don't think they will ever get it. That's a shame too.

To be afraid of an inanimate object to the point of sheer terror and panic amazes me.

I really feel sorry for anyone whose mind is capable of being afraid of chunks of metal and plastic.

Hell, I wish I COULD somewhat think that way, at least I might be able to debate with them. As it is I just kind shake my head in sadness and walk away.