I'm Thinking About Another CZ

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Tecolote

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I haven't had a good run with with CZs. All the ones I've owned have been traded or sold, but I can't think of a more aesthetically pleasing design. CZs haven't met my reliability standards and triggers are rough out of the box. On the other hand they're accurate, affordable, and feel great in the hand. I'm thinking about getting a CZ75B. Should I give CZ another chance?
 
I have really enjoyed mine. I have not had any malfunctions yet, and I have shot it in many IDPA matches.

I have the CZ75 "Semi-Compact", which is a full size frame with the compact slide.
 
CZ pre-B, jammed on everything, safety came loose from frame and locked slide, had to use a mallet to move slide

CZ75B Compact, jammed on FMJ, slide constantly locked back on loaded mag

CZ75B, jammed on FMJ, trigger slapped my finger

Like I said, I haven't had a good run with CZ.
 
Hey,

I had a 75B with the Kadet .22lr conversion kit a few years ago and sold the package.

This is easily the most painful "I wish I didn't sell that" when it comes to firearms for me.

The 75B was a flawless shooter right out of the box. The trigger left something to be desired initially but it smoothed out nicely with use.

The Kadet kit, for which I paid $199 was a joy to shoot and a big help in smoothing out that trigger as well as improving my shooting of the pistol for accuracy.

You can quiote literally shoot all day long with that kit for about $10. I paid $199 for the kit new. I see then now for $299 and more sometimes.

Pardon me while I kick myself in the ass.

Mike
 
CZs are the best guns on the planet, for the money. Well maybe their not all that, but I sure like em:D My CZ75B 9mm, has been flawless in 4000 rds, I rate them right up their with Glocks:evil:
 
Concur - nary a problem with my CZ 75 or my P-01. I just wish they were a bit lighter for carry.
 
Tecolote wrote:

CZ75B Compact, jammed on FMJ, slide constantly locked back on loaded mag

I bought a new CZ75B about two weeks ago. Through 500rds., Ive had this happen about nine or ten times. I spoke to a CZ gunsmith and he is sending me a new slide stop and spring. Hopefully, this will correct the problem, because I like the way this gun feels, looks and shoots. Besides, I passed on a like new Beretta 92FS to get it and I would hate to think I made a big mistake in doing so.
 
I’ve never experienced the rough/gritty trigger – 75B .40, 83 .380, and SP-01 – they’ve all seemed smooth and break nicely. All three have been accurate and reliable out of the box. The 75B platform seems to handle the .40 really well. They shoot most all ammo well.

All gun makers produce a few lemons – unfortunately you got a grove.

I say give it one more try.
 
I have 650 rounds through my CZ75B now, and the trigger is broke in quite nicely. Never had a malfunction of any kind. And it was the most accurate gun I owned. I say was because I finally got a Steyr GB and it shoots just a tiny bit better. But I am still in love with my CZ!
 
I've got a 75B and a 75D PCR plus the Kadet Kit. All have been flawless. Change out the recoil spring and mag springs just in case. You may also need a new extractor spring. Mine were all 100% out of the box, but I changed the springs anyway.
 
I have a P-01. I have experiences several FTE (stovepipes) with blazer aluminum ammo. I replaced my factory springs with Wolff springs, but the blazer FTE's were not fixed. With brass, the gun runs 100%.
 
Change out the recoil spring and mag springs just in case.

With heavier springs, or higher quality springs? Also, would a heavier recoil spring increase the likelihood of a broken slide stop ?
 
I think the slide stop failures are way overblown. I've always used slightly higher powered springs from Wolff with great success. But again, never had a failure with the original springs either. I did the change out just as a precaution.
 
Try a P-01. Easily the best CZ pistol made right now.
WE here of very few problems with them and they sell very well.

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Should you really want a full sized 9mm. The Stainless model seems to be doing well. Very few complaints about them, just use brass cased ammo.
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The SS model is considered to be the Cadillac of the 75B line. Best 75B I've ever owned!

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Hop into the CZ ZONE for more pics and info on most CZ and DW pistols!
 
I'm also looking to get another, the Compact 75 has been perfect. I did have to remove and clean the firing pin and channel on my Kadet kit after 5000 rounds, but I consider that just normal maintenance. I truly believe my CZ's will outlast me and go to my son one of these days. Mike
 
The majority of CZ problems I've seen are magazine-related. Not surprising, really, as so many people use aftermarket mags instead of factory (because they're expensive). 75s are generally known for digesting any kind of ammo you throw at them - with the possible exception of aluminum-cased rounds.

Maybe it's just me, but I think any gun worth owning is worth tinkering with a bit. Get a new 75, use the factory mags, and get some snap caps. I think you'll be pleased with the old "elbow grease trigger job," i.e., dry firing a few hundred times - at which point the trigger turns buttery smooth.
 
Deacon Blues is right -- use only CZ factory or Mec-Gar mags (I've had CZ-USA actually ship Mec-Gar mags as "factory" mags). The cheap after market mags are worthless.

We've got two early model CZ75s (no "B"), one made in '84, the other in '85. My wife's gun was basically "New Old Stock", but mine had been around the block. I had some failures to feed right after I bought the pistol, but that was corrected with a Wolff recoil spring. I have also had some ammo related issues, but that was from a batch of junky old Norinco 9mm that was best reserved for blasting through a MAC, otherwise they feed anything I've thrown at 'em.

We love our CZs, and I trust them enough for my wife to have one as a self-defense piece. From everything I've read, the "new" CZs are just as good as the old. I sure wish they hadn't gone to that ugly "everyone's doing it" squared off trigger guard. I keep looking at the stainless models and wondering if a good 'smith could recontour one!

We have the Kadet top (got it for her) and it was a bit finicky at first, but there was a design change and CZ-USA sent us a new firing pin (free).

Great pistol: accurate, reliable, classic lines. Great company: good customer service, parts availability. Give them another chance.
 
I have a P-01. I have experiences several FTE (stovepipes) with blazer aluminum ammo. I replaced my factory springs with Wolff springs, but the blazer FTE's were not fixed. With brass, the gun runs 100%.

I've never had good luck with Blazer aluminum cased stuff. I'd sworn off the stuff entirely before I ever got a CZ, but I'm not surprised it stovepiped. Decidedly bad ammo, in my opinion.

I think the slide stop failures are way overblown. I've always used slightly higher powered springs from Wolff with great success. But again, never had a failure with the original springs either. I did the change out just as a precaution.

Going by internet standards, both my P-01 and SP-01 slide stops should have blown all to pieces by now (a couple times over with the SP-01). I'm of the opinion the slide stop failures in CZs are about like .40 cal Glocks turning into hand bombs and kB'ing randomly. Very small kernel of truth, and endlessly repeated to the point of absurdity online.
 
Mec-Gar does make CZ's mags, but the ones they sell under their own name are a different design; presumably CZ wrote up some fine print to prevent them selling the same magazine for half the price. I don't know if they are more or less reliable than the factory-branded mags.

Yes, one does get a rather distorted impression of the frequency of slide stop failures, largely due to the fact that nobody starts a new thread to explain that their slide stop is still in one piece. FWIW, I've seen other, perfectly reliable firearms break slide stops before. Unremarkably, uprated recoil springs seem to be a common factor in these instances. :scrutiny:
 
Love my PCR and BD. I replaced my mag springs with Wolffs and have had no problems. I have had good luck with Blazer in 9mm in all of my CZs. +1 on using factory mags. I recently purchased some Mecs for the PCR but have not shot them yet. Should be good to go since they make them for CZ, I believe. I think I will add a SP-01 soon.
 
Deacon Blues said:
Mec-Gar does make CZ's mags, but the ones they sell under their own name are a different design; presumably CZ wrote up some fine print to prevent them selling the same magazine for half the price. I don't know if they are more or less reliable than the factory-branded mags.

I ordered some "factory mags" from CZ-USA a couple of years ago. One of the mags they sent was a Mec-Gar marked 16 rnd mag, different design from the "factory" 15 rnd mags. I called and talked to them because I want quality mags for my guns; their claim was basically "same quality, this is what we do when we're short on factory mags". I decided to keep it, and give it a try.

My experience with the Mec-Gar mag has been fantastic. It may actually be a slightly stronger design than the "factory" version, it seems to be more robust around the taper and feed lip area.
 
Tecolote,

I'm surprised you haven't written off CZ after all that! I've never had any trouble with mine, Pre-B's, CZ-75B Stainless, and SP-01.

Since you find the triggers lousy, maybe look at getting a CZ-85 COMBAT. I just did a trigger job on my Stainless.
 
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