DC Gun Amnesty-supreme court hearing

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I sure hope that the Supreme Court interprets the second amendment as an individual right, not a collective right. The antis are ratcheting up the anti-gun rhetoric hard and I am sure it will be a HUGE issue.

The VT shootings and the mall and church killers will surely come back to haunt the law abiding citizen. A couple of bad apples and the rest of the group gets called on the rug to answer for what they did! Grr....:cuss: this ticks me off!

Full Story here...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/15/AR2007121501678.html

GUN AMNESTY PROGRAM
Police Net 279 Firearms With Buyback
Event at Churches Lures Owners Ready to Trade Old Weapons for Holiday Cash

By Delphine Schrank
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, December 16, 2007; Page C06

For $100 and the prospect of some cash in hand for Christmas shopping, Levaun Dicks marched into the basement of Union Temple Baptist Church in Southeast Washington yesterday and handed a police officer a plastic bag containing a loaded 9mm Makarov semiautomatic pistol.

"It was lying in my dad's shed," said Dicks, 31, of Fort Washington, who was recently laid off from a real estate company. "It wasn't needed, and I need the money."

Dicks was among scores of Washington area residents to participate yesterday in the D.C. police department's gun amnesty program. Held at three churches -- officers had hoped the non-threatening setting would lure people who might be intimidated by having to head into a police station -- residents were offered $100 for assault-type rifles or semiautomatic pistols, $50 for revolvers, derringers, shotguns and rifles, and $10 for air, BB and pellet guns.

The buyback netted 279 firearms yesterday in return for $14,450.

The program takes place against a backdrop of gun violence in the city. As of Friday, the District had 176 homicides this year, compared with 169 for all of 2006. Robberies and assaults with guns are also up in many neighborhoods.

D.C. police have recovered more than 10,000 guns in the past five years in the city, despite having one of the strictest gun laws in the country. The District's law essentially bans private handgun ownership and requires that rifles and shotguns kept in private homes be unloaded and disassembled or outfitted with a trigger lock. The law, which is being challenged by advocates who say it violates Second Amendment rights, will be reviewed next year by the U.S. Supreme Court.

Police have held other guns-for-cash exchanges in recent years, including one at three police stations in September 2006 that netted 337 firearms in return for $16,700. This year, said police Cmdr. Joel Maupin, the District allocated $100,000 for the buyback.

At Shiloh Baptist Church in Northwest, 81 guns cluttered the bottoms of three giant cardboard boxes by midday, as a middle-aged man with a semiautomatic wrapped in plastic walked up to policemen on watch outside the church.

In the basement of Union Temple Baptist Church, behind panels decorated with children's crayoned drawings of candy canes and cotton-wool snowscapes, police officers mingled near a table covered with more than 30 firearms, from palm-size semiautomatics and revolvers with dainty pearl-handle grips to shotguns and hunting rifles.

As in the past, police took the guns with no questions asked. They planned to test-fire them and gather ballistics evidence. Investigators will determine whether the guns can be linked to any crimes. Guns that have been cleared will be destroyed.

"We don't really expect people involved in criminal activity" to hand in their weapons, said Maupin, who heads the 7th Police District in Southeast. "But every weapon we get is one less that could be used against an owner or anyone in the street. It's important to get any weapon off the street."

Maupin said the majority of buybacks were from citizens who had little use for their firearms.

"I was holding onto it for sentimental reasons," said Charlotte McGutherie, 59, of the pearl-handled, .30-caliber, five-shot revolver that had fallen into her possession when her mother died in 1985. For years it had lain stashed away in a basement filing cabinet.

Ernest Austin, 53, of Silver Spring said he bought his Davis .380 semiautomatic -- small enough for slipping into a breast pocket -- 10 years ago for $100 for home protection. He'd never had to use it, he said, and kept it locked away in a closet. But in recent years, he grew concerned that his two children, 15 and 12, might get their hands on it.

Handing over a 12-gauge shotgun and a shopping bag bulging with ammunition, Wanda Brooks, 56, of Oxon Hill also said she felt uncomfortable having a weapon hidden in a closet within reach of seven roaming grandchildren. The gun had belonged to her partner, who used it to hunt before he died last year.

A police officer handed her a $50 bill. She looked at it a moment and, with a smile, said, "I'm going to buy a Christmas tree."

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The Washington Post shouldn't be spared from any of that disgust. Clearly they made no effort to get quotes from someone with a different opinion, other than the gun-shy grannies and the cops who feel that disarming the good guys makes their job safer.
 
For $100 and the prospect of some cash in hand for Christmas shopping, Levaun Dicks marched into the basement of Union Temple Baptist Church in Southeast Washington yesterday and handed a police officer a plastic bag containing a loaded 9mm Makarov semiautomatic pistol.

"It was lying in my dad's shed," said Dicks, 31, of Fort Washington, who was recently laid off from a real estate company. "It wasn't needed, and I need the money."

That's awful, turning in her dad's gun. It wasn't her business to turn in HIS property (assuming of course, he's still alive and he didn't give her permission). If I had kids and they did this, I'd dissown them.

I did, however, like the story that was posted some time ago about the guy turning in the piece of pipe and convincing the police that it was a home-made rocket launcher.
 
Sounds to me like Levaun Dicks stole the gun from her father. Needed or Un-needed, makes no difference. Oh yes, the amnesty part....
 
I did, however, like the story that was posted some time ago about the guy turning in the piece of pipe and convincing the police that it was a home-made rocket launcher.

:) Shucks... I've got a whole bunch of scrap steel tubing and barstock to go along with my cheapo flux-core wire welder... $50 bucks per slam-fire shotgun could buy me alot with just what I have on hand and about 15 minutes buildtime per weapon. Hmmm... That's $200 per hour, for crying out loud!

I'd only be tempted if it wasn't our own tax money funding such a frivolous adventure into sure slavery for regular citizens like ourselves, though.

A police officer handed her a $50 bill. She looked at it a moment and, with a smile, said, "I'm going to buy a Christmas tree."

Doesn't that just tug on the ole heartstrings?! [sob] Me? I'd buy more steel to build more "guns" to turn in (were I so inclined and impoverished). :rolleyes:

Y'all know there's not a BG or Goblin out there who'd give up a sure meal ticket such as any firearm they stole earlier for the beans they're shelling out our hard earned cash for to 'get em off the streets'. Not when one good, successful mugging with it could net him maybe enough cash for some cheap body armor or another choice weapon for his 'homie' to take on 'juicier' victims with less risk to his own safety. :barf:

Whatever...
 
Do they have to be real working guns or just something that looks like it might be a gun? SOS has given me an idea, just cobble up some realistic looking junk out of scrap metal and Viola - gun buy back fodder!
 
Boy, This just really says it all doesn't it.

"We don't really expect people involved in criminal activity" to hand in their weapons, said Maupin, who heads the 7th Police District in Southeast. "But every weapon we get is one less that could be used against an owner or anyone in the street. It's important to get any weapon off the street."
 
"We don't really expect people involved in criminal activity" to hand in their weapons, said Maupin, who heads the 7th Police District in Southeast. "But every weapon we get is one less that could be used against an owner or anyone in the street. It's important to get any weapon off the street."

So how exactly does getting law abiding citizens to turn in their guns reduce crime?
Nice article. No followup questions or opposing views. Did the Bradys write this?

Edit: Owens, you beat me to it.
 
This is what "impressives" me, is that these people would:

1) take officers and other law enforcement personnel off of the streets, who could otherwise be out fighting criminals known to be armed, inroder to...

2) use tax dollars to disarm people who have no wrong, and all the while...

3) admit that this does nothing to reduce the number of criminal-controlled firearms, and thus they...

4) tactitly admit that they are subjecting the law-abiding folks to ever-more to criminal abuse per the 3 aforementioned.

Edit to add: Now it makes sense. Duh. This is called LEO job-security. Disarm the law-abidding. Leave criminals out committing crimes, and in possession of firearms. Crime persists; the people cannot defend themselves. The LEOs arrive after the murder, take pictures, scribble an incompetent report, and brag on themselves to be hereos. Did I miss anything?

Doc2005
 
I did, however, like the story that was posted some time ago about the guy turning in the piece of pipe and convincing the police that it was a home-made rocket launcher.

It wasn't a piece of pipe.

It was actually an empy missile tube from a TOW missile.
 
I sure hope that the Supreme Court interprets the second amendment as an individual right, not a collective right.
They already did.

The Supreme Court wrote the question that will be addressed - and wrote it in a way that explicitly excludes any "collective right" notion. The question acknowledges that there is an individual 2nd Amendment right, and asks if certain laws violate that individual right.

People have argued so much against the fantasy of the "collective right" that they've forgotten it's a fantasy. The Supreme Court doesn't address fantasies.
 
These folks in D.C. were lucky. I just finished "The Great New Orleans Gun Grab - Descent into Anarchy", and in New Orleans, after hurricane Katrina, the law abiding folks with self defense guns got beat up, guns stolen or trashed, and not a dime! No $100 or $50 bargain buyback for them. Just goes to show, D.C. is a better/safer place to live than New Orleans. (satire off)
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What would keep someone from standing outside the church or wherever on public property and making offers as people walked in to sell their "assault type weapons" for $100.

"they are going to give you $100, I'll give you $150, no questions asked"

this is what I think the response to gun buy backs should be.
 
residents were offered $100 for assault-type rifles or semiautomatic pistols, $50 for revolvers, derringers, shotguns and rifles, and $10 for air, BB and pellet guns.

The buyback netted 279 firearms yesterday in return for $14,450.

by my count that is $51.79 per gun collected that they paid out...

not too many $100 payouts eh?

It was actually an empy missile tube from a TOW missile.

it was actually a TOW missile storage tube... not the actual launcher tube... guy got $75 for it... sad thing is, they are worth about $200 to collectors
 
What would keep someone from standing outside the church or wherever on public property and making offers as people walked in to sell their "assault type weapons" for $100.
Because this is in DC, where you can't even have an assembled gun IN YOUR OWN HOME.

And I don't understand why these people don't take their guns to a pawn shop or gun shop, they'll get the "money they need" and someone who wants a gun can buy it then from the FFL.

:rolleyes:
 
I wonder what would happen if you shot someone you didn't like, ran up, handed over the gun and demanded amnesty and the cash.

A lot of places pull the BS that they "Ballistically test" the guns before destroying them. Fat lot of good that does if the perp is gone.

As to buying weapons...the problem is, they'll be sitting there waiting for you to lay hands on one with a defaced number, short barrel, whatever, and BAM, they'll arrest you for "receiving contraband" or some such.

I wouldn't risk it.
 
Shucks... I've got a whole bunch of scrap steel tubing and barstock to go along with my cheapo flux-core wire welder... $50 bucks per slam-fire shotgun could buy me alot with just what I have on hand and about 15 minutes buildtime per weapon. Hmmm... That's $200 per hour, for crying out loud!
Actually, that's not half bad! It's completely legal to build yorself a non-nfa gun, for personal use, you just cant make them with the intent on selling them, but turning it in isnt selling, its turning it in.seems like $20-30 at Home Depot and a little effort, one could make a couple really crude guns pretty easy.Sure doesnt seem like you would be breaking ANY laws, and I cant imagine they'd be able to say much if you didnt get too carried away and only made and turned in like 2 or 3 at mos.Still a pretty good profit margin, all for having done something fun and interesting like making your own gun....
any volunteers to test the waters on this? (I cant volunteer, as I've not heard of a buyback in this entire state, the 2 years I've lived here.I just dont think they do it--dont really need to, and likely, only Portland could afford it.)

P.S.--If I am incorrect, and this would in any way be illegal, the PLEASE dont do it.I'm not advocating anyone break ANY laws.(just advocating beating anti-2A people at thier own game :D)
 
Lessee, 19" long tube in 12 gauge.

Shorter capped tube that fits over it, with a screw through the center protruding 1/16"

Weld on two pipe handles.

Crude, inaccurate but plenty strong slamfire shotgun.

Completely legal under federal law.

Worth doing just for the publicity, I think.

Either that, or broken Ravens for $15/each at a gun show.
 
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