U.S. Population Growth and RKBA, 2000-2030
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Thats a great question my guess will be things will remain largely as they are know. RKBA seems to have suffered a loss in past decades because if you weren't a rural person you probably didn't have anyone talking the pro-rkba side with you. It seems like the internet has changed that a great deal today and allows people to easily check out both sides and make their own call on who is telling the truth. This helps give people in population centers a chance to hear our side in a way they probably didn't before.
On the bad side though it seems like an expanding welfare state and immigration will be working against us. It also seems like it is becoming harder and harder for shooting ranges to stay open.
Do you know what percent are voting for pro-rkba candidates?
It isn't a "omg the scary brown people are coming" thing. Numbers from Cato in 2002 showed hispanics voted democratic at a 2-1 rate. A USA today article from this year says 3-1. Take your pick, either way more votes for the democratic party because of their stance on immigration or social services generally mean another nail in the coffin of the rkba.
30 cal slob
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i guess it's time to take a hispanic fella and gal to the range for some good clean SAFE fun.
bi-lingual NRA mailings.
the time to get this demographic educated about 2A is NOW.
bi-lingual NRA mailings.
the time to get this demographic educated about 2A is NOW.
Gordon Fink
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The soft socialism of the Democratic Party is a very seductive idea. We’ll tax those rich people to give you free healthcare, free childcare, free education, and all sort of other goodies. Most people don’t consider themselves rich, so this message sounds very nice compared to a Republican Party that wants to send your children off to foreign wars, cut your parents’ Social Security, keep your brother from getting into college, cut your sister’s welfare benefits, and keep your cousins from immigrating in the first place.
The trick, of course, is that most people who would consider themselves middle class are rich by Democratic standards.
~G. Fink
The trick, of course, is that most people who would consider themselves middle class are rich by Democratic standards.
~G. Fink
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cbsbyte
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Yeah that is the spirit. We need to actively court minorities. Unfortunately many Hispanics I have spoken with about the RKBA, seem to believe it is only about hunting, and don't have any interest in it. They also do not trust the NRA. They see it has a right wing, racist organization. Which is understandable since the NRA has done little to court minorities, which allowed the antis to demonize it as a racist organization. The future might be fine if we can on an individual bases go out and try to court minorities. I don't believe they will stop voting Democrat anytime soon, but if a large enough percentage sympathize with the RKBA, then that actually might change the stance of many Dem politicians.
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The Southeast and the Southwest, including California, all the way to Florida, is in jeopordy of losing their 2nd Amendment Rights, RKBA. Political Correctness aside... Once the conservative White population drop to below 50% in most Southern States, you can kiss your guns goodbye. The demographics change in the South is just astounding. African American and Hispanic population is booming in the South. Texas and California is already MINORITY Majority. Georgia has projected by 2010, the White population there will fall to 40%. And that's basically going to happen in South Carolina, North Carolina, Tennessee, Florida, Virginia, Arizona, and New Mexico. The politics with the minority population there, is that they are very much, staunch ANTI-GUN Democrats. Take for example, I'm in Georgia, and the heavily populated African American community there, in Atlanta, and the surrounding areas are staunchly anti-gun. Believe me, once the African Americans make up more than 50% of the State of Georgia's population by 2010, you better believe that they're going to legislate more restrictive gun laws, prohibited guns altogether if they could. We could see something like the DC Handgun ban, in the state of Georgia.
It would be wise to spread the importance of the RKBA to the growing minority population, but in all honesty, most really don't care. In all the guns shows and gun stores I've been to in the South, it seems that most of the African Americans and Hispanics who buy guns, tend to be GANGBANGERS, and CRIMINALS, who haven't yet got caught by the system. I can tell by their GANG attires, and they way they act. And it's not just them, there's also the growing number of White Anti-Gun LIBERALS moving down south, looking for jobs.
The 2nd Amendment, RKBA rights, will die a slow death. I'm not optimistic about it. The only thing we can hope for, is a Supreme Court ruling, that will favor gun owners, gun rights for the next few decades, long enough to stave off the changing demographics change. But by then, I know they're going to take off the 2nd Amendment from the Constitution, if they could.
Call me racist or whatever if you want. I don't consider myself one. I'm just being REAL about the situation. People can be in LALA land if they want about it.
It would be wise to spread the importance of the RKBA to the growing minority population, but in all honesty, most really don't care. In all the guns shows and gun stores I've been to in the South, it seems that most of the African Americans and Hispanics who buy guns, tend to be GANGBANGERS, and CRIMINALS, who haven't yet got caught by the system. I can tell by their GANG attires, and they way they act. And it's not just them, there's also the growing number of White Anti-Gun LIBERALS moving down south, looking for jobs.
The 2nd Amendment, RKBA rights, will die a slow death. I'm not optimistic about it. The only thing we can hope for, is a Supreme Court ruling, that will favor gun owners, gun rights for the next few decades, long enough to stave off the changing demographics change. But by then, I know they're going to take off the 2nd Amendment from the Constitution, if they could.
Call me racist or whatever if you want. I don't consider myself one. I'm just being REAL about the situation. People can be in LALA land if they want about it.
sharpshooter74
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Kiss your RKBA goodbye
The Southeast and the Southwest, including California, all the way to Florida, is in jeopordy of losing their 2nd Amendment Rights, RKBA. Political Correctness aside... Once the conservative White population drop to below 50% in most Southern States, you can kiss your guns goodbye. The demographics change in the South is just astounding. African American and Hispanic population is booming in the South. Texas and California is already MINORITY Majority. Georgia has projected by 2010, the White population there will fall to 40%. And that's basically going to happen in South Carolina, North Carolina, Tennessee, Florida, Virginia, Arizona, and New Mexico. The politics with the minority population there, is that they are very much, staunch ANTI-GUN Democrats. Take for example, I'm in Georgia, and the heavily populated African American community there, in Atlanta, and the surrounding areas are staunchly anti-gun. Believe me, once the African Americans make up more than 50% of the State of Georgia's population by 2010, you better believe that they're going to legislate more restrictive gun laws, prohibited guns altogether if they could. We could see something like the DC Handgun ban, in the state of Georgia.
It would be wise to spread the importance of the RKBA to the growing minority population, but in all honesty, most really don't care. In all the guns shows and gun stores I've been to in the South, it seems that most of the African Americans and Hispanics who buy guns, tend to be GANGBANGERS, and CRIMINALS, who haven't yet got caught by the system. I can tell by their GANG attires, and they way they act. And it's not just them, there's also the growing number of White Anti-Gun LIBERALS moving down south, looking for jobs.
The 2nd Amendment, RKBA rights, will die a slow death. I'm not optimistic about it. The only thing we can hope for, is a Supreme Court ruling, that will favor gun owners, gun rights for the next few decades, long enough to stave off the changing demographics change. But by then, I know they're going to take off the 2nd Amendment from the Constitution, if they could.
Call me racist or whatever if you want. I don't consider myself one. I'm just being REAL about the situation. People can be in LALA land if they want about it.
The Southeast and the Southwest, including California, all the way to Florida, is in jeopordy of losing their 2nd Amendment Rights, RKBA. Political Correctness aside... Once the conservative White population drop to below 50% in most Southern States, you can kiss your guns goodbye. The demographics change in the South is just astounding. African American and Hispanic population is booming in the South. Texas and California is already MINORITY Majority. Georgia has projected by 2010, the White population there will fall to 40%. And that's basically going to happen in South Carolina, North Carolina, Tennessee, Florida, Virginia, Arizona, and New Mexico. The politics with the minority population there, is that they are very much, staunch ANTI-GUN Democrats. Take for example, I'm in Georgia, and the heavily populated African American community there, in Atlanta, and the surrounding areas are staunchly anti-gun. Believe me, once the African Americans make up more than 50% of the State of Georgia's population by 2010, you better believe that they're going to legislate more restrictive gun laws, prohibited guns altogether if they could. We could see something like the DC Handgun ban, in the state of Georgia.
It would be wise to spread the importance of the RKBA to the growing minority population, but in all honesty, most really don't care. In all the guns shows and gun stores I've been to in the South, it seems that most of the African Americans and Hispanics who buy guns, tend to be GANGBANGERS, and CRIMINALS, who haven't yet got caught by the system. I can tell by their GANG attires, and they way they act. And it's not just them, there's also the growing number of White Anti-Gun LIBERALS moving down south, looking for jobs.
The 2nd Amendment, RKBA rights, will die a slow death. I'm not optimistic about it. The only thing we can hope for, is a Supreme Court ruling, that will favor gun owners, gun rights for the next few decades, long enough to stave off the changing demographics change. But by then, I know they're going to take off the 2nd Amendment from the Constitution, if they could.
Call me racist or whatever if you want. I don't consider myself one. I'm just being REAL about the situation. People can be in LALA land if they want about it.
Autolycus
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How do they act? And what kind of attire are they wearing? What gang affiliations are they with? How do you know that they are criminals?
This thread brings up a good point...
What are the NRA, JPFO, and GOA doing to court Hispanic members? There are plenty of hard-working, LEGAL Hispanics in this country, many of whom have better work ethics and family values than other Americans.
They'd be an excellent group to have on our side. At the very least, why not a Spanish-language version of American Rifleman?
What are the NRA, JPFO, and GOA doing to court Hispanic members? There are plenty of hard-working, LEGAL Hispanics in this country, many of whom have better work ethics and family values than other Americans.
They'd be an excellent group to have on our side. At the very least, why not a Spanish-language version of American Rifleman?
K-Romulus
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Well, this thread started off with a lot of promise . . . . oh, well.
Well it all depends. The current political views of those states could dramaticly change.
Arizona gets a large amount of its population from CA. CA residents are in general less supportive of RKBA.
Most democratic candidates are either rabidly anti themselves, or at least support complete registration and documentation which allows the others who are to implement gun control for law abiding citizens more effectively.
Several of the most RKBA friendly states currently are along the southern border. I would not be surprised to find many views of places like AZ, TX, and NM change to be much less tolerant of people's RKBA as more US citizens are born to illegals and current citizens move from expensive anti gun locations to cheaper less developed locations currently supportive of RKBA.
Most metropolitan and heavily urban locations are anti gun, and the populations coming from them and relocating are going to bring thier beliefs on "common sense gun laws" and restrictions with them.
Many other states throughout the midwest and central portions of the nation, and even states on northern borders are seeing dramatic increases of hispanics as well as urban populations moving to where they can get more for thier money.
Unless RKBA becomes an important part of hispanic mainstream culture (which it is far from) then the fastest and largest growing segment of our population is likely to be anti gun like most of it is currently.
Arizona gets a large amount of its population from CA. CA residents are in general less supportive of RKBA.
This is also very true. The projected American population growth is predominantly hispanic. Hispanics by and large vote Democrat, and come from places with no RKBA in effect.
Most democratic candidates are either rabidly anti themselves, or at least support complete registration and documentation which allows the others who are to implement gun control for law abiding citizens more effectively.
Several of the most RKBA friendly states currently are along the southern border. I would not be surprised to find many views of places like AZ, TX, and NM change to be much less tolerant of people's RKBA as more US citizens are born to illegals and current citizens move from expensive anti gun locations to cheaper less developed locations currently supportive of RKBA.
Most metropolitan and heavily urban locations are anti gun, and the populations coming from them and relocating are going to bring thier beliefs on "common sense gun laws" and restrictions with them.
Many other states throughout the midwest and central portions of the nation, and even states on northern borders are seeing dramatic increases of hispanics as well as urban populations moving to where they can get more for thier money.
Unless RKBA becomes an important part of hispanic mainstream culture (which it is far from) then the fastest and largest growing segment of our population is likely to be anti gun like most of it is currently.
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