New level of campus hysteria STUPID

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I am signed up to a theater mail list and this just came out. Just blows my mind the irrationality of it all. My son was just in the play A Christmas Story. He played the kid Flick that stuck his tongue on the flag pole. I assume most guys here would know the story is about a boy obsessing about getting a Red Ryder Action Air Model Range Rifle for Christmas. They rehearsed with a wooden rifle but used a REAL Daisy in the play. Pretty brash huh?

... after another gun tragedy, college officials are still
trying to figure out how to make their campuses safe -- and
theater still is a target. A student production of
Assassins, the award-winning musical, was to have premiered
Thursday night at Arkansas Tech University, but the
administration banned it -- and permitted a final dress
rehearsal Wednesday night (so the cast could experience the
play on which students have worked long hours) only on the
condition that wooden stage guns were cut in half prior to
the event and not used.

http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2008/02/22/arktech
 
Ardith Morris, a professor of theater who was directing the production, said she could not comment on her feelings about the decision, and could only answer questions of fact. She said that a total of 60 students had been involved in the production — counting actors, the orchestra and technical crew. When the decision was made to call off the production, she said that she asked if the president wanted to brief the students, but that offer was declined in favor of her doing so. She said the news brought “tears and outrage” from students.
How shameful.
 
My drill team in ROTC in college used REAL M1 Garands; de-mil-ed, of course. No pins and welded barrels, but the actions were still functional. They looked real enough. We practiced outside, in full view of a major road. Never had an ounce of trouble. We were told (by our team commander, i.e. in-house common sense) to not point the rifles at people or things to keep from alarming folks. Fine with me. We performed at a half dozen university events each year. nobody ran or screamed "THEY HAVE GUNS!!!" or anything. We didn't even have to jump through hoops to get the rifles and store them on campus!
 
gotta say if i had that level of interest in something like plays( mind you its really not even gun based interest) id certainly be pissed about it

id like to think a little civil disobedience is in order.
 
wow

you know they would have had to use something sharp, pointy/dangerous to saw those wooden dummy guns in half, im sure alot of liberal heads were spinning, ...guns dangerous, must saw it in half, saw sharp, but must use it to saw something more dangerous.

Liberals are a danger to society
 
Some have suggested that "Saving Private Ryan" should have been filmed using wooden guns cut in half.

Liberals aren't a uniform bunch of people. You can't say stuff like that, Crash Test--it's not only ignorant, it's offensive.

I mean, it wouldn't be nice if I said something like "Not all conservatives have ice water instead of blood." ;)

Having said that, I feel really badly for the people who worked so hard on their play, only to have it stolen from them.
 
This is why I doubt we will ever see concealed carry here at my school.
Funny thing is this school is located in Arkansas (which is usually pretty gun friendly).

from www.couriernews.com (you have to go to the archives and search to see the story).

Here is the story from the "local" paper.

Story date: Feb. 21, 2008

Student PLAY shut down amid concerns
By Janie Ginocchio
and Mary Kincy Benefield
[email protected],
[email protected]
The cast and crew of Arkansas Tech University’s production of the Stephen Sondheim and John Weidman PLAY “Assassins” opened, sans props, Wednesday night to an audience consisting solely of participants’ family members.
A woman who identified herself only as a university instructor called Wednesday night’s performance a “final exam,” before shutting a stage door to reporters.
University officials announced Monday the PLAY, which portrays scenes of violence, was being “postponed until an undetermined future date” in view of “recent tragic events” on other campuses around the United States.
Ken Futterer, an assistant professor of music at the university who served as musical director for the production, in speaking to a reporter outside ATU’s Techionery on Wednesday evening, called the event a “final rehearsal” that would provide students with the opportunity to create an “archived copy” of their efforts on the project — albeit without the prop guns. The props are considered such an integral part of the PLAY Futterer said the theater department was contractually forbidden from performing the PLAY without them.
A witness told The Courier wooden prop guns, presumably intended for use in the production, were sawed in half and disposed of in the hours before Wednesday’s rehearsal.
When reached by telephone Wednesday night, ATU Assistant to the President for University Relations Susie Nicholson said university officials decided to postpone the PLAY days before opening night in part because of the “timing of the situation at Northern Illinois” University, in which a gunman killed five students before turning the gun on himself.
“But I just think the reason it happened [when it did] was because [the PLAY] was just brought to the attention of the campus safety people,” she said.
She said campus safety officials had “a real concern” about the PLAY’s violence.
When asked if those concerns included a fear the PLAY would inspire someone on campus to violence, Nicholson responded, “Who knows the answer to that? Out of an abundance of caution it would not be wise” to take any chances.
“Graphically violent scenes” in the PLAY were cited as a reason for the postponement in Monday’s press release. However, the university is showing the movie “American Gangster” at 6 and 9 p.m. today, a film the Motion Picture Association of America rated R for “for violence, pervasive drug content and language, nudity and sexuality.”
When asked if scenes of graphic violence in a movie should raise the same concerns as a PLAY, Nicholson said, “It definitely could.” She said she didn’t know of any plans to reschedule or cancel the movie’s showing.
She said campus security was concerned about the sounds of gunshots coming from the Techionery during the PLAY’s performance.
When asked if administrators considered posting signs warning the public about the sounds or if they considered other ways to mitigate concern other than stopping the performance, she said, “[Postponing the PLAY] was the decision the administration made” after receiving late notice about campus security’s concerns.
A program for the PLAY provided to The Courier warned audience members to expect “gun shots” during the production.
When asked if administrators or campus security officers would be on hand to ensure the production would not use the prop guns, Nicholson said there was “an extra officer on campus tonight.”
“Just for a precaution,” she said. “Because of the props and the nature of the show.”
When asked how he felt about the PLAY’s cancellation, Futterer said although he was “not happy” with the situation, he understood Tech officials’ response.
“The people above us — their responsibility is to the entire campus, and I’m not questioning their decision,” he said. “I think that being cautious is appropriate, given the situation.”
Asked how he felt about a university officials allowing a university-sponsored showing of the film “American Gangster” to go forward tonight in light of the PLAY’s cancellation, Futterer was vague.
“I have such mixed feelings I’m not able to put them into words,” he said.
Arka Tech reporter Caitlin Cordell provided information for this report.
 
Forgive the Liberal...For they know not what they do...
:evil:

"Domestic terrorist" - the new nomenclature for Liberal.
 
There are a number of Shakespeare plays that might inspire violence as well. Only comedies from now on!:banghead:
 
Wow! Cut them bad boys in half! Then we'll all be safe. :banghead:

I work at a university and, although it's pretty liberal, we don't go to that extreme. When the theater dept wants to use a prop gun, they let the PD know and all is good. Obviously the reason for the disclosure is so when a student or professor who is in a panic calls the PD to say there's a person with a gun in the building where the theater is, the police respond accordingly:

"Yes Ma'am, we will send an officer, but what you saw is probably the prop being used in the current theater production."

The only time I can remember there was an issue was immediately following the VA Tech incident. One of the professors okayed a student bringing a rifle to a class. They neglected to tell anyone and the student open-carried it across campus. Needless to say, it created quite a stir. :uhoh:
 
I though cutting down the bbls made guns more dangerous? Fix a couple of bristles to the scrapped barrel and you get a real street sweeper. Might as well get some use out of them...
 
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There may be some other things working behind the scenes here as well.

There was a shooting a day or two before this play was to be put on. It happened off campus but it was possibly organized by some of the football players. Needless to say there were a lot of ATU students at this party. (Dardanelle is a town approx 10 minutes from Russellville).

Some other interesting things is that there was alcohol involved yet we live in a "dry" county (note both Dardanelle and Russellville are located in Dry counties). It is well known that people go to the armory when they want to party and get drunk (this is not the first party at the armory). Also the armory has no permit for alcohol (these are BYOB parties).

They found 24 pieces of spent brass. 2 young adults (19) were shot.

http://www.todaysthv.com/news/news.aspx?storyid=60832

Now this is not the cited reason for postponing the play (although I often wonder why they said "postponing" vs. canceling) but I am sure that it played a part in the decision. Please note I am trying to simply point out the facts here I think it was a bad decision but there was more going on then simply they didn't like the play.

Note I go to this school.
 
I just went and read the article that I posted above and it states that only one was shot. That is incorrect and here is the article from the local party which shows that 2 were shot.

http://www.couriernews.com/archived_story.php?ID=17695&Search=Armory

Violence erupts at Dardanelle armory party
Story date: Feb. 17, 2008

Man hospitalized in serious condition following shooting; Yell Co. sheriff says altercation appears to have led to violence witnesses describe as “crossfire”
By Mary Kincy Benefield
Reporter
DARDANELLE — A 19-year-old man is in serious condition at a Little Rock hospital after an apparent altercation at a party attended by Arkansas Tech University students resulted in a shooting early Saturday morning outside the Morris R. Moore Arkansas National Guard Armory near Dardanelle, authorities said.
Yell County Sheriff Bill Gilkey said in a press conference held late Saturday afternoon despite having conducted interviews with “several” witnesses since the incident, which he said occurred about 2 a.m., no one had yet been arrested in connection with the shooting.
“We feel like at this time we’re close to identifying a possible suspect or suspects,” he said, adding, “We believe there’s going to be multiple gunmen involved in this.”
He said investigators do not believe the shooting was racially motivated, nor do they suspect any of the victims “were shooters during the incident.”
In addition to the man hospitalized in Little Rock — who Gilkey said was shot in the back — two others, including a 19-year-old male who sustained a gunshot wound to the wrist and a 19-year-old female who suffered from shock, were treated and released at area hospitals.
Investigators recovered 24 spent 9 mm rounds from the grounds at the armory, Gilkey said.
Gilkey declined to comment on who organized the party, which he said was heavily attended by an estimated 500 individuals between the ages of 18-25, including both ATU students and “other attendees from across the state of Arkansas.”
 
Liberals seem to go hysterical even over toy guns. I think there was a county in Maryland where toy guns for children were banned. Of course, you can be certain that in such a place cross dressing is still allowed, and it is probably a sanctuary for illegal immigrants. Such things all seem to go together.
 
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