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Lugs back too far?

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jacobhh

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I was considering rebarreling a '95 Chilean Mauser I bought relatively cheap,
but the lug wear/setback looks nasty. This was an arsenal rechamber from 7x57
to 7.62.

The shiney part of the lug to the left of the cam is .004" back from the unworn
area to the left of IT.

Is this receiver scrap or can I save it?

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lower receiver locking lug
 
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Jim, beleive me,I have read that AFTER buying the thing. It was dumb doing
my research after the fact. At least I never did attempt to fire it. I cut
the barrel off behind the rear sight and pulled the stub. What I saw was
nearly identical to the article. That article is also a 'sticky' on surplusrifle.com.
The chamber even had that gap in it.

The receiver looks nice other than the lugs and the stock with hardware
are good. If I can save the receiver I can rebarrel and save the gun.
Jerry K says the lugs shouldn't be pushed back more than .002" with no
elaboration or suggestion. You know how that book can be.

The top are just at .002 and the bottom, as mentioned, are at .004.
The threads are good and I can't see any evidence of any other damage
on close inspection and measurement.

I was hoping to get some opinions from guys like you on here, who have
a hell of a lot more experience than I. Hence my post.
 
It is possible to repair the setback, but it is honestly not worth it. You can likely part out the action (sell the bolt, bottom metal, ejector box, etc.) and recoup the money that you have in the rifle. Your barrel removal technique makes selling the barrel a moot point!:D

Clemson
 
A 95 Mauser isn't considered strong enough by most authorities for a 7.62 NATO anyway.

You got a 51,000 action with no safety lug and poor gas handling, and a 62,000 cartridge.

rcmodel
 
The indication is that those conversions were done so that the old guns could be kept in an emergency reserve and still take the same ammunition as the current weapons if they ever were needed. Since the 7.62 NATO pressure is relatively low (48-50k psi), and few if any shots would ever be fired, that probably made good sense. A rebel or rioter who sees a soldier with a rifle is not likely to examine the date or workmanship of the weapon before remembering an urgent appointment elsewhere.

The same idea was behind the Indian No. 2 and 2A, which were made for issue to the police and paramilitary forces so they could use the same ammunition as the Indian Army, which was armed with an Ishapore-made FAL.

But the importers didn't really care; they proclaimed the guns as being for .308 Winchester and put them on the market. Of course, they didn't say how many rounds the guns would fire before having problems, but what the heck, money is money.

Jim
 
Well, thanks gentlemen. I'm disappointed but not surprised. It's no good
for anything with those pummeled lugs.

The barrel is good riddance, the receiver I'll pot in plastic as a paperweight
and part out the rest as Clemson suggested.
 
FWIW...You can probably turn it into a decent plinker that can be surprisingly accurate...if you cast your own rifle bullets. I did it with an Argentine Mauser that had been rebarrelled in 7.62 and the headspace was...a little frightening.

You'll need to use once-fired Nato-spec brass. Thicker in the web and throughout than commercial cases. Cast your bullets fairly soft, and use about 8-9 grains of Unique with a tuft of kapok or dacron to keep the powder near the primer. Accuracy is better. Don't pack it tight. Just enough to keep it in place.

Set your sizing die to just barely kiss the case shoulder to forestall stretch.

After recrowning and bedding the action, my little turnbolt is surprisingly accurate with good bullets, and the pressures are low enough that the brass barely needs resizing. I toss it after the third firing, just to be safe...but I've never had a problem. The chronograph swears that the velocties are in the 1200 fps neighborhood with a 180-grain bullet, which makes it powerful enough for Coyotes called in close...or to knock a steel plate winding at a hundred yards.

Of course, you may not experience the same success with your rifle as I did with mine...so all caveats are in order.
 
"was considering rebarreling a '95 Chilean Mauser I bought relatively cheap, but the lug wear/setback looks nasty. This was an arsenal rechamber from 7x57
to 7.62. "

They were selling those guns in the late 60s. They were rebored and rechambered from 7mm to .308/7.62mm. Owned several of them myself and still own two. The receivers and bolts vary in hardness from gun to gun.

The bolts in the guns that I kept did not set back: This was not the case with another one that I sold as a wall hanger.
 
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