Pramunitus
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Since the previous thread was mysteriously closed, apparently because a moderator doesn't like threads that "don't ask a legal question", I thought I'd resurrect it here. HF 2092 seeks to correct blatant disregard of legislative intent included in Iowa's current law. Current Iowa law allows for "discretion" on the part of the sheriff, which many Iowa sheriffs (mostly eastern, but also some from other areas) interpret as "I can issue to whomever I want, and deny whomever I want."
Some other oddities of Iowa's current state of affairs:
1. As stated in the other thread, the Linn County Sheriff (and many others) won't issue for "self-protection". Yet, the application clearly states, "...statement is to contain clear and convincing evidence that this applicant may be required to use deadly force to protect his/her life or the life of another." The Linn County Sheriff will, however, issue to certain individuals, if they habitually carry over $500 CASH (they need to have $500 on their person if stopped), despite the fact that Iowa law precludes using deadly force to protect property.
2. The Dubuque County Sheriff uses the "domestic abuse" angle as a straw man argument. He maintains that he knows abusers who haven't been convicted, but whom will apply if the law is changed. Curious, since you don't need a permit to have a gun in your home, where 99% of domestic abuse occurs. Also curious, since someone who is already breaking the law is supposedly going to follow "this one law" (apply for a CCW Permit)???????
3. Iowa's law creates a patchwork of 100 different issuing standards (one for each of the 99 counties, and another for the Department of Public Safety (DPS)-- which issues Professional and Non-resident Permits). Curiously, the DPS has taken a much more professional approach to the current problem, and we're hearing that the Iowa Non-resident Permit is no longer virtually impossible to acquire. It's absolutely easier to acquire an Iowa Permit if you don't live here, in many cases.
Now, to satisfy the moderator, please debate and discuss pertinent legal issues. Also, please check out IowaCarry.org.
Some other oddities of Iowa's current state of affairs:
1. As stated in the other thread, the Linn County Sheriff (and many others) won't issue for "self-protection". Yet, the application clearly states, "...statement is to contain clear and convincing evidence that this applicant may be required to use deadly force to protect his/her life or the life of another." The Linn County Sheriff will, however, issue to certain individuals, if they habitually carry over $500 CASH (they need to have $500 on their person if stopped), despite the fact that Iowa law precludes using deadly force to protect property.
2. The Dubuque County Sheriff uses the "domestic abuse" angle as a straw man argument. He maintains that he knows abusers who haven't been convicted, but whom will apply if the law is changed. Curious, since you don't need a permit to have a gun in your home, where 99% of domestic abuse occurs. Also curious, since someone who is already breaking the law is supposedly going to follow "this one law" (apply for a CCW Permit)???????
3. Iowa's law creates a patchwork of 100 different issuing standards (one for each of the 99 counties, and another for the Department of Public Safety (DPS)-- which issues Professional and Non-resident Permits). Curiously, the DPS has taken a much more professional approach to the current problem, and we're hearing that the Iowa Non-resident Permit is no longer virtually impossible to acquire. It's absolutely easier to acquire an Iowa Permit if you don't live here, in many cases.
Now, to satisfy the moderator, please debate and discuss pertinent legal issues. Also, please check out IowaCarry.org.
Just not Illinois
