A caveat about the "open carry" trend.

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In 1990, while living in VA beach, I was stopped by VABPD for open carry. The officer held my buddy and I in his patrol car for over an hour while he searched his statue book for a law to arrest us on. He then called his Sergeant to the scene, who ordered the officer to let us go.

When they returned our weapons, the told us to leave them unloaded. We loaded and reholstered them right then and there. We asked them if we were free to go, and they released us.

A hassle? Yes. But many people get hassled when fighting for civil rights. Look at Rosa Parks, the parents of the children in Brown v Board of Education, and the others who suffered for civil rights for all US citizens.

Many on here claim that they will "shoot it out" with anyone who will try and take their guns. All talk. Many of you will not even carry a gun legally because they don't want to be hassled.

If you don't work to keep and protect your rights, you will lose them.
 
A hassle? Yes. But many people get hassled when fighting for civil rights. Look at Rosa Parks, the parents of the children in Brown v Board of Education, and the others who suffered for civil rights for all US citizens.

Thanks and God bless you and your buddy for your stand too. I open carry quite a bit and have never even had a LEO (or anybody else for that matter) look twice at me, and I have people like you to thank. I'd like to shake your hand.
 
RESEARCH THE ATTITUDE OF YOUR LOCAL COPS BEFORE YOU DO THIS.

Check out the law, yes; ask cops for permission to exercise our civil rights, never.


I didn't say "ask permission." I said "RESEARCH THE ATTITUDE."

Big difference, folks...

The die-hards always change the point from seeking information to asking permission. It's an old trick. I don't know why they bother....

It's a prudent thing to scope out the position and attitudes of LEOs in your area if it is not known and if it is practicable. An effective inquiry can be useful. You can find out, for example, that the LEOs have a weak understanding of applicable law. Or that they are emotionally perturbed about the issue. This is highly beneficial intelligence. Or you may find out that their interpretation of the applicable law is something new to you and may have some merit according to your own analysis.

Seeking useful information is never a bad idea. And, yes, seeking useful information is NOT seeking permission. That's a dreadful argument.
 
RESEARCH THE ATTITUDE OF YOUR LOCAL COPS BEFORE YOU DO THIS.

In California, that would be an exercize in futility. They'll most likely say, "I'll arrest you." When you demonstrate how it is legal, they'll say, "I'll detain you every time I see you." or best of all, "What if a rookie cop shoots you." Like a poorly trained rookie cop is justification to sacrifice our rights.

The better thing to do is give legal notice to your local departments. Tell them in advance what you are going to do. That way if they arrest you, you are standing on the high ground in your civil case.
 
Check out the law, yes; ask cops for permission to exercise our civil rights, never.

True. However, don't try OC for the first time, if you have a train to catch or something.
 
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