What's the cheapest way to ship a handgun?

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I know with UPS you have to overnight it...does anyone else accept handguns for shipping? thanks
 
AFAIK, only UPS and FedEx will ship a handgun, and both require that it be shipped overnight air. But you can ship it overnight air saver (for afternoon delivery) which is a little less expensive. And in any case, I recommend insuring it for its full value.

Who are you shipping it to? a dealer? a gunsmith? You may not mail it. Doing so would be a federal felony. But an FFL can mail it to another FFL (or manufacturer or distributor). Some FFLs will, as a service, handle that for individuals for a small fee (and some charge a large fee -- forget about those); and that could work out to be cheaper.
 
Also, if you ship it yourself to an FFL make sure you declare to the UPS or Fedex person that you shipping a firearm, otherwise it's a felony.
 
a felony?? really?? I think it is mainly not following asinine rules put in place by a private company.

I use US Postal service.. much cheaper..:)
 
camacho said:
Also, if you ship it yourself to an FFL make sure you declare to the UPS or Fedex person that you shipping a firearm, otherwise it's a felony.
That is false.

You only have to declare it's a firearm when you're NOT sending it to a licensee.

Federal law does not require that the shipper be notified a handgun is being shipped as long as it is being shipped to an FFL (licensed dealers, manufacturers, collectors, etc.), despite shipper regulations requiring notification.

18USC922(e)
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It shall be unlawful for any person knowingly to deliver or cause to be delivered to any common or contract carrier for transportation or shipment in interstate or foreign commerce, to persons other than licensed importers, licensed manufacturers, licensed dealers, or licensed collectors, any package or other container in which there is any firearm or ammunition without written notice to the carrier that such firearm or ammunition is being transported or shipped; except that any passenger who owns or legally possesses a firearm or ammunition being transported aboard any common or contract carrier for movement with the passenger in interstate or foreign commerce may deliver said firearm or ammunition into the custody of the pilot, captain, conductor or operator of such common or contract carrier for the duration of the trip without violating any of the provisions of this chapter. No common or contract carrier shall require or cause any label, tag, or other written notice to be placed on the outside of any package, luggage, or other container that such package, luggage, or other container contains a firearm.

CDIgnition said:
a felony?? really?? I think it is mainly not following asinine rules put in place by a private company.

I use US Postal service.. much cheaper..
It is a federal law, not a "private companies rule".

432.1 General
The following conditions apply:
a. Pistols, revolvers, and other firearms capable of being concealed o
the person (referred to as handguns) are nonmailable in the domestic
mail except as permitted in Exhibit 432.1 and DMM C024.1.0.
Above from http://www.usps.com/cpim/ftp/pubs/pub52.pdf
 
Ok, so I can take it to Fed Ex, tell them it's a handgun, and they can ship to a licensed FFL dealer, correct?

My dealer charges $24(transfer fee) PLUS shipping costs. Does anyone else get charged for a transfer fee when shipping a gun?? He's probably ripping me off.
 
I do believe handguns are not mailable via Postal Service, unless an FFL is involved, i.e. FFL to FFL; individual to FFL/manufacturer.
 
thegoodfight said:
Ok, so I can take it to Fed Ex, tell them it's a handgun, and they can ship to a licensed FFL dealer, correct?
You only have to declare it's a firearm if you're NOT sending it to a licensed person.

The shipping laws are posted everywhere on this forum ( this is very commonly asked ).

thegoodfight said:
My dealer charges $24(transfer fee) PLUS shipping costs. Does anyone else get charged for a transfer fee when shipping a gun?? He's probably ripping me off.
My dealer charges me $100 + shipping costs.

I do my own shipping and don't deal with folks whose FFL holder only receives from other FFLs.
 
My dealer charges $24(transfer fee) PLUS shipping costs. Does anyone else get charged for a transfer fee when shipping a gun?? He's probably ripping me off.

Everybody gets charged a transfer fee, its part of doing business. The fee varies with the dealer, mine charges $44, so you'll get no sympathy from me! :neener:
 
There really isnt a cheap way to do it legally. I just give it to my FFL dealer and $20bucks. Problem solved and no worries.
 
Also, if you ship it yourself to an FFL make sure you declare to the UPS or Fedex person that you shipping a firearm, otherwise it's a felony.
As nalioth said, this is incorrect.

If you're shipping to a FFL you're under no legal obligation to notify UPS or Fedex what you're shipping. You do violate their company policies however so if your gun is lost or stolen you might find it to be a hassle to get an insurance payment. Of course if your box is lost or stolen I don't know how UPS would prove that a gun was inside it in volation of their company policies. The no hassle route is to just ship it next day air saver and spend the $45 or whatever. Would I spend $50 to ship a $200 keltec for repair? I'd probably risk UPS ground.
 
My dealer charges $24(transfer fee) PLUS shipping costs. Does anyone else get charged for a transfer fee when shipping a gun?? He's probably ripping me off.

If he'll ship usps priority for you get a flat rate box and this should make it come out pretty reasonable. My FFL charges $20.00 and with the flat rate box it comes out under $40.00 with insurance for $500.00 and delivery confirmation.
 
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A flat rate box runs less than $10 via USPS. Add on insurance and delivery confirmation and you are usually somewhere in the $15-20 range for shipping cost (depending on the amount of insurance). If your dealer charges less than $20, this will usually end up being about $40 to ship the gun. I have not used fedex for overnight in many years, but I've had people tell me that it cost them $70 to send me a handgun using overnight, so the dealer route can be cheaper. Obviously if your dealer charges $100 for the service and you have to ad shipping cost on top of that it is cheaper to use Fedex or UPS.

My dealer charges $24(transfer fee) PLUS shipping costs. Does anyone else get charged for a transfer fee when shipping a gun?? He's probably ripping me off.

Your dealer does not make any money from the shipping cost. Unless you expect him to do a service for free (filling out paperwork and dropping the box at the post office), you should expect to pay some sort of transfer fee for his service.
 
What's involved and what are the costs of becoming an FFL dealer?
Thats kind of a big question. A dealer's license is for people engaged in business. You need to have property zoned for it and actually be running a business.
 
I dont charge anything to mail stuff for customers. I use Stamps.com and as long as they box it up, ill mail it for free(they pay Postage tho)..:)
 
My dealer charges $24(transfer fee) PLUS shipping costs. Does anyone else get charged for a transfer fee when shipping a gun?? He's probably ripping me off.
That's actually not too bad.

Keep in mind that UPS Next Day Air is going to run you about $50-$70 to ship a handgun (depending on weight, distance and whether you're shipping it to a larger city or podunk town). FedEx is about the same (I've always found them slightly more expensive but YMMV).

Since an FFL can send a handgun via priority mail for $10-$20, tacking on an extra $20-$30 is still going to save you money.

My problem has always been finding FFLs that are willing to hassle with it.

My dealer charges me $100 + shipping costs.
Your dealer is a thief.
 
Since multiple posters have stated it's not required to declare a firearm when shipping to a licensee, I won't quote any one of the posts. I'll just mention that the BATFE FAQ says otherwise:

(B8) May a nonlicensee ship a firearm by common or contract carrier? [Back]

A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by a common or contract carrier to a resident of his or her own State or to a licensee in any State. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. In addition, Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm and prohibits common or contract carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm.

[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(2)(A), 922(a) (3), 922(a)(5) and 922(e), 27 CFR 478.31 and 478.30]

I italicized the applicable statement for your convenience.

The entire FAQ may be found here:
http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/faqindex.htm

Each answer is followed by a listing of the applicable Federal laws or regulations if you wish to follow up in detail.
 
Just ship it regular ground on the cheap. As already mentioned, it is NOT a federal law that you have to tell the carrier that it's a hand gun/firearm. It's only a policy violation. Just put "machined parts" or something in the contents section of the label and insure it properly. On that note, what would they do if they found out it was a firearm? They can't confiscate it, right? Do they randomly x-ray packages?
 
Since multiple posters have stated it's not required to declare a firearm when shipping to a licensee, I won't quote any one of the posts. I'll just mention that the BATFE FAQ says otherwise:
The faq doesn't cover every circumstance, read the law itself.

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