Ohio: rifles with magazine capacity > 31 rounds

Anything that will accept a super hi cap mag - AK, AR, any gun that Beta mags are made for, any gun that anyone ever made a super hi cap mag - 1911 shooter, remember the experimental 33 round mag Col Cooper made? There you go. Catch all ban all law.

Seem to recall OH classifies semiautos with more than 30 round mags as destructive devices. Check the code, cause I'm going to sleep.

'designed'?

So, simply by virtue of existance of (factory!) 33 round mags for my Glock 34, I can go to jail?

Great, they just banned all guns.

As quoted in the first post, the law explicitly refers to SEMI-auto.

I'm not a lawyer, and I haven't asked a lawyer about this...but I've always understood it to mean that a semi-auto is a semi-auto- unless- you are in posession of both, the firearm AND a magazine/drum with a capacity of more than 30 rounds- then it is legally regarded by Ohio as full auto. This is similar to federal regs in regard to the possession of semi-auto rifles and the fire control parts required to convert them to full auto. Even un-assembled, the Feds consider it a violation. Makes no sense- but I THINK that is the intent of the law. Technically, an AR15 with a Beta C Mag, is considered to be a fully automatic weapon in Ohio.

"Automatic firearm" also means any semi-automatic firearm designed or specially adapted to fire more than thirty-one cartridges without reloading, other than a firearm chambering only .22 caliber short, long, or long-rifle cartridges. "

"And "white" is defined to include that color commonly known as "black."" :banghead:

I have a 70 rd beta mag for the m1a/m14 that is made from a ww2 german machine gun [ mg42 ] on order. There are very few allowed to be transferred, all are prebans and have been converted before the ban to take a tower for the m14 which also has to be a preban to be lawful.

You can also get these for HK91 types [ the towers ]

The mag is 2100.00 and the towers are 350.00 each, I have one on order and another as a spare. $2500.00 for the pkg. delivered out of Texas.

No class 3 necessary to purchase, but if it's caught on a semi auto post ban, you are going to do some time.

Mine was purchased for the preban bush rifle and will have a Vortex flash hider on it which shortens the rifle another 2 1/2 inches over the standard FS. The rifle is 4 inches shorter than a standard m1a/m14 in bush config, take another 2 1/2 " off for the Vortex, add the M4 stock with adjustable length of pull and the pistol grip which I had custom made and camo-ed and the whole pkg sits at just a few inches over a car-15 shorty but in 308.

It will weigh too much to hold it for long, but the bipod and from prone will keep everyones heads down for a good long time and can be a good suppressive fire weapon if the S ever HTF.

With the custom M-4 stock off the m16 with pistol grip and the shorter rifle it's almost a one of a kind. Nothing illegal about it and it will certainly get a lot of attention when it's put together and on the line.

Instructions, manual of arms, mag key winder are all included with the pkg.

Glad I don't live in Ohio.

Brownie

About 10 years ago (+/-) an Ohio cop told me anything over 30 rounds was iellegal.

I thought magazines over 30 rounds were guaranteed to jam anyways? IS this true more often than not?

I thought magazines over 30 rounds were guaranteed to jam anyways? IS this true more often than not?

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From what I gather, that is only true with aftermarket magazines.

so can I use the factory 33 round mags in my Glock 19 or not?

I don't know where you got that ORC cite.

2921.11 Perjury.
(A) No person, in any official proceeding, shall knowingly make a false statement under oath or affirmation, or knowingly swear or affirm the truth of a false statement previously made, when either statement is material.

(B) A falsification is material, regardless of its admissibility in evidence, if it can affect the course or outcome of the proceeding. It is no defense to a charge under this section that the offender mistakenly believed a falsification to be immaterial.

(C) It is no defense to a charge under this section that the oath or affirmation was administered or taken in an irregular manner.

(D) Where contradictory statements relating to the same material fact are made by the offender under oath or affirmation and within the period of the statute of limitations for perjury, it is not necessary for the prosecution to prove which statement was false, but only that one or the other was false.

(E) No person shall be convicted of a violation of this section where proof of falsity rests solely upon contradiction by testimony of one person other than the defendant.

(F) Whoever violates this section is guilty of perjury, a felony of the third degree.

Effective Date: 01-01-1974

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2921.11 (E) deals with perjury, not what you are saying it does.

You are referencing 2923.11(E) which is the "Weapons Control Definitions" under ORC.

Ohio law states that the weapon needs to be capable of firing more than 31 rounds without reloading. So as long as you do not have a 32-round or larger mag inserted you are fine. There has been great debate over what a 31-round magazine with a round in the chmaber already constitutes- by the law, it makes an automatic weapon.

A deputy sheriff was recently terminated because he was in possession of high-capacity magazines (iirc it was an AK drum).

The law's intent is not to ban guns, it was to limit extremely large capacity magazines. It's a silly law, but one we are working on correcting.

"About 10 years ago (+/-) an Ohio cop told me anything over 30 rounds was iellegal."

That is why he is a cop and not a lawyer.

ep, please note that the original post was started 4 years ago. I am sure the OP mis-typed.

ORC 2923.11 further below says:

(K) “Dangerous ordnance” means any of the following, except as provided in division (L) of this section:

(1) Any automatic or sawed-off firearm, zip-gun, or ballistic knife;

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Then see:

2923.17 Unlawful possession of dangerous ordnance - illegally manufacturing or processing explosives.

(A) No person shall knowingly acquire, have, carry, or use any dangerous ordnance.

(D) Whoever violates division (A) of this section is guilty of unlawful possession of dangerous ordnance, a felony of the fifth degree.

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