Range report... Open sights... 100 yards... 1917 Enfield

Well, I took it out today and ran 12 shots through it at 100yards and I am happy. I was on my knees using a stump as a rest and I used the stationary peep sight that I thought was calibrated at 50 yards, but it shot high. So, I adjusted my aimed target and shot a pretty nice 1" 3 shot group and 2 fliers. All shots from that group was within 3" but the 3 were within 1". I would call that MOA wouldn't you?

Mikey!

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Thanks C-Grunt! I was excited about that result, because that is the first time I have been able to see what I was shooting at with any type of clarity. I think the rifle did most of the work. What I was most surprised about though was the fact that it shot 3-4 inches above where I was aiming.

Does anyone know what distance the non-movable part of the peep sight is set at when it was made? I thought it was supposed to be 50yards.

The flip up sight is graduated and I haven't shot with that sight yet, because it starts at 200yards and goes up to 1600yards. The furthest I ever shot at a target was 100yards and that was yesterday as shown in my range report.

If someone knows or knows where I can find the info, please post.

Thanks,

Mikey!

Well, since my original post, I have researched and found that the 1917 as well as the No. 4 Enfield stationary battle sights are armory set at 300 yards with Mil ammo 174gr for the .303, and whatever gr the 30-06 mil springfield weight is. I am shooting factory ammo at 180gr. So it should be pretty close. I just have to adjust my POA so that my POI is where I want it. That's why practice, practice, practice is what makes a better shooter. I am sure playing with the graduated sight will produce different results, but that's where more practice comes in as well. I will eventually get better. Heck this was the first time out where I could actually see the target.

I think I did ok for the first time. Right???

Mikey!

Thanks Funderb!

Lionking

Nice! Thanks for sharing. You have a couple of nice rifles there.

jlmurphy,

That's what my research found yesterday. You are correct. I do not think I want to change the front sight. I just need to practice and make sure I get proficient with where to aim to score a Bull every time. That way, I will be the only one who can shoot my rifle with any accuracy. Anyone I want to teach will be able to know as well, but strangers etc, won't!

Mikey!

My S&K scope mount arrived last week and I mounted my 4-16X40 Center Fire scope on my M1917. I took it out to the range and at 100 yards, I shot 5 shot groups within 1.5" to 2" all day long from the sandbags and a bench rest. I am more then pleased with my rifle. I feel confident that if I aim at something and pull the trigger, I am going to hit it.

I did take NCSmitty's advice above and changed to the 150 Gr. rounds. Remington's ballistics showed near 3000 fps for those rounds with a 24" bbl. My bbl is only 20", so I am not getting quite as many fps, but it sure shot much straighter than it did with the 180 Gr. and scope. There also wasn't as much kick to it either.

I also further modified my stock as well. Since the wood had been modified before I ever received it. I decided to go ahead and make a change that I thought was very necessary. Let me explain.

When I stood the rifle on it's butt flatly on the floor, the bbl was angled almost 30 degrees from plumb. This made the gun lurch back and hit my shoulder with about 2 square inches of contact. This resulted in a big bruise each time I took the rifle to the range. So, I cut the stock off at an angle that made the bbl plumb when sitting on it's butt, and added a medium slip on limb saver, until I can find a permanent padded butt that will fit properly.

Now when I shoot it along with the 150 Gr. Remmington Core Lokt rounds, it's a dream. Barely feel anything. Definitely no pain whatsoever. It was after this mod, that my groups tightened up as I wasn't whincing when I pulled the trigger. Now I just have to go practice some more with it to teach myself that pulling the trigger isn't going to hurt and I think I can tighten up the groups even more. All in all though, I am very happy with my M1917 rifle!

Thank you all for your posts.

To clear some things up on the battle sights on the M1917... According to C.S.Ferris' book UNITED STATES RIFLE MODEL OF 1917 the range of the battle sight is set at 450 yards. Which makes sense. When I used the battle sight I was shooting WAY high, 3-4" high. When I flipped up the adjustable sight and set it to 200 yards, I was only 1-1.5" high. So, there you go!

Jim,

Obvious to the naked eye and as important a distinction as clip versus magazine.

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Didn't you see my signature? You may be able to tell the difference between open sights and peep sights and to even know that there is a difference between the two, however, the term open sights was only to differentiate that there was no scope attached and I didn't know the difference between peeps and open, at the time. So, it wasn't so obvious was it?

Thanks for the correction!

Mikey!

Kleanbore,

.308??? Don't you mean 30-06? From what I understand, none of the production M1917 rifle's bbls were made to the British specs. That was the first thing they changed to accept the ammo that was in huge supply for the 1903 Springfield which they were in short supply of.

Does anyone else have more info. I am only going by the facts as gethered by C.S. Ferris in his book as mentioned above.