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Maclyn

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New here but been carrying for a little while in southern Oklahoma, Recently purchased a 1911 Taurus and I love this gun. I want to try to figure out the best way to switch over to it as a primary CCW but between the size difference on the gun from the compact that I normally carry and tipping the scales at a little over 300 lbs(short and round, not tall and bumpy) I'm a bit at a loss. I looked through the history and used the search but didn't find much that applied...maybe because there is no solution?

My normal attire is professional casual wear, so slack tucked in long sleave shirt, no jacket, no tie(though If somone has a concealment meathod that requires a tie I'll be amazed...) and not really in any position to change this without causing at least a little bit of notice...so anyone else out there with any life experiance or even quasi-brilliant ideas?

oh...other half of my question, should be pretty simple, what is the safest way to carry a 1911 type? I'm figuring empty chamber as cocked and locked just seems...well wrong.
 
You are probably going to find a pair of pants one size larger and locate a holster inside it. There should be a location somewhere between your 11 o clock to 4 o clock (With 12 your direct front) under a spare tire where you can make your gun vanish. A big or slightly longer versions of a vest or secondary overwear should make it all go away.

I use a Smart Carry system. My weight varies a bit but it's the only position that I can find for all season carry. (Man, hate the puns)

I cannot offer you much help with handgun, mine will fire without a magazine and has no external safety (No external hammer either..) so therefore I carry with none in the chamber and magazine fully loaded. The second clip is very easily gotten to from it's location.

Good luck!
 
Full size 1911 is 39 ounces unloaded. Add to that you have spare ammo, holster and light the weight drags a fat boys pants off his butt. Suspenders will make you comfortable and not give you plumbers butt.

When you get tired of the heavey gun then go for a Smith airweight 38and a pocket holster.

jj
 
There are some things that still remain impossible . :D

I am over 300 as well , I pocket carry an airlight revolver . I'd have to dress like a monk to pull off full size .45 carry. My guess is you won't find a good way either.
 
From what I've seen, there are many that are fond of the Smart Carry Holster. I have a friend that is 300 plus and is really limited by what he can carry. Unfortunately his best option is to address his weight problem so that he can have more freedom to choose his carry methods. This to me seems like the best option.
 
Suggest off body carry

In planner or something like. Doesn't take long before you get over fear of forgetting it.

My backup suggestion is a lightweight Commander!

Cheers, TF
 
When wearing business casual, you can wear a light weight (seasonal weight might be the better term) sports coat. Nice thing, you can wear this type of covering garment inside with no odd looks.
A casual jacket design goes with business casual dress as well as jeans.
This sports coat from Cabela's was my choice. It's well made and reasonably priced.
I do this occasionally to cover an OWB Glock 19.

As far as carrying a 1911...well, cocked and locked with one in the chamber works best. Whatever you do, don't carry with one in the chamber and hammer down! Decockng a 1911 can result in an ND very easily (don't ask me how I know this).
BTW, one reason I carry a Glock (besides the fact I really like them) is the gun is dehorned...no sharp edges to catch on clothing or cause excessive wear. Your 1911 does need to be dehorned if you're wearing a covering garment.
 
Actually the full size 1911 or Highpowers, are some of the easiest pistols to carry for CCW.

The key is they are very thin.

First you need a quality belt, then a quality holster. That is very individualized and all anyone can tell you is what they carry.

I am fat too.

I carry a full size Colt Gunsite Pistol, government model or for some, 5" barrel. I use a Wilderness 5 stitch belt, and a Milt Sparks VM II. I carry my spare magazine in a Blade-Tech folding knife pouch "horizontally" on my belt. (the same pouch will work with the Highpower magazines too, when I do carry a Highpower.

The Milt Sparks VMII holster can be set up for "tucked" in shirt duty with the proper clips that are offered at the Miltsparks.Com site.

I often forget that I have the weapon on me. It really is that comfortable. I have fallen asleep with the pistol in holster and on.

I do carry at home too.

Best advice, spend good money for a good belt regardless of holster model or brand.

Several of the leading holster suppliers have "tuckable" holsters.

As to the locked and cocked issue, if you are not going to carry your 1911 locked and cocked, get something else and carry it properly. Something like a Glock,SIG etc.....

When you feel comfortable to carry a 1911 properly go back to it. If you believe locked and cocked is to use your words "wrong". You are not ready to use or fight the 1911 pistol. Get something else, that you ARE comfortable enough to carry in it's proper manner.

Good luck.

Fred
 
An empty chamber is a useless gun. While some threats can be assesed from a distance, most are upon you before you could pull the gun and rack the slide to chamber a round.

If cocked and locked, as you bring the gun to bear on a threat, the safety is released and your ready to go.

Your weight will probably leave you to carry on the belt holster as chaffing is an issue for inside the pants or under the arm.

Do yourself and all the gun owner crowd a favor, try and loose the weight. We need individuals like yourself to carry on the 2nd amendment rights.

We want you around for a long time.
 
To address some of the great responses I've gotten so far;

1. Ok cocked and locked is the propper and safest way to carry a loaded 1911.
2. I am still carrying my original weapon and will continue to do so until I can find a manner that allows me to comforitably carry the 1911.
3. I realise that weight loss is the simplest answer, and I am working on that but I hardly gained the weight in a week and doubt I will lose it in the same time frame...so in the interest of not being unarmed I'll work around my weight for as long as it's an issue.
:)
I really do appriciate the comments so far and I've looked at a few of the reccomended systems already, so keep the suggestions coming and thanks!
 
JD, I lost a lot of weight on a low carb diet. I never thought it possible, but I got tired of meat. ROFLMAO. I also like my cow juice and cereal. Damn, there just IS no decent diet for me.

I'm 6 feet and about 210 now, settled out there, and have a "dickydoo" around the middle. IWB ain't the most comfy for me, so I really prefer pocket carry and that requires much lighter AND smaller than a 1911. 1911s have a lot of crap to poke you in your love handles with, just not real carry friendly for me.
 
I control my weight with a bit of tavern ham, muffins and a steamed green plate once a day washed by coffee and water. Ice cream in the late evening prior to bed.

I recall consuming 8 to 10 Thousand calories a day 3-5 meals full during a dakota winter on one work day on the road. Cost me some dollars yes but kept the wheels going making money in -40 whiteouts. I have feeling half was lost to heat the the other half to fear of a ice induced jacknife.

At that time I weighted like 130 you could not hide a pen on my belt anywhere. the knife went into a boot thankfully. But try shoving a barreled gun down there. LEO's say.,.. what's matter pardner? You drink a few beers?
 
LOL well I have (thankfully?) a sedentary job, I'm a computer administrator...down side is the good old swivle chair spread...up until a few years ago I was doing PC work in the day and...more physical...work at night, very tired but much much much more fit.
 
I'm somewhere near your build 6'2" 275. I have a few pounds on me but I have lifted weights forever so I've got a 56in chest. (I'm getting married and cant find dress clothes easily:mad:)The gut is mounted square center and no sides....IWB is the best I've come up with, but you'll likely have a few pants that are sized to work, move up a size with your carry "pants" and loose weight to fit the old ones. That's how I motivated myself to loose some weight too...

-Phil
 
Try going from 130 nothing to something like 220 and having trouble holding the paws, woof and tail on the end of the leash. That was my motivator to get back down to something where I can manage within 4 pounds of 175 or so give or take.
 
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oh...other half of my question, should be pretty simple, what is the safest way to carry a 1911 type? I'm figuring empty chamber as cocked and locked just seems...well wrong.
Carrying a 1911 (or any handgun) with an empty chamber is carrying an unloaded gun. When things go wrong they go very wrong fast. Do you really want to bet your life you will have time to draw, rack the slide, take the gun off safe and then reacquire the target and then finally pull the trigger?

Just because the hammer is back on a 1911 doesn't make it unsafe. You have 3 safeties preventing that firearm from discharging, the manual safety, the grip safety and your head telling your finger to be off the trigger until you want to destroy whatever is on the other end of the barrel. I have never heard of all 3 of those safeties failing at the same time. ;)
 
In the last couple of years I have lost over 100 pounds and now weigh in at 260 pounds. During that time I tried a variety of concealed carry methods and came upon the Smart Carry holster and tried it. I have found it to be a very safe, secure, and effective way of carrying a number of different guns - including a "cocked and locked" 1911.

oh...other half of my question, should be pretty simple, what is the safest way to carry a 1911 type? I'm figuring empty chamber as cocked and locked just seems...well wrong.

I must admit when I started carrying a 1911 the idea of C&L carry was really intimidating. But, everyone said that was the way the 1911 was meant to be carried. So, I began to carry it cocked and locked with no round in the chamber!

I engaged in every possible activity just to see what would happen to that poised hammer and what I found was that nothing happened. I started carrying C&L with a round in the chamber a long, long time ago and, of course, it has turned out to be an effective and safe way to carry.

True for the Smart Carry as well! At my height and weight I find that a 1911 in a SC is a very good way to carry and do so with no personal fears. My dress is most often casual and the SC goes well with that.
 
If you aren't going to carry a 1911 cocked and locked, I would recommend you choose a different gun for CCW.
 
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