Any .32 or .327 federal available?

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I thought the .380 supply was bad, but I simply can't find any online suppliers at less than $2 per round. Is there ANY around?
 
I cast my bullets and load my own, I've loaded my first box of 327 seven times. It is starting to show signs of stress, primer pockets are loosening up and the cases definitely are growing. I've got several hundred 32 magnum cases and about a thousand 32 S&W Long and 450 32 S&W. I'll get by, I've got a full box of American Eagle 100 gr. 327 set back. Right now I'm concentrating on loading the 32 Magnums up well past SAAMI specs so I can run them thru the 327 revolver. FUN,FUN,FUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Ammo engine picked up on this.
Federal Premium Hydra-Shok Jacketed Hollow Point 85 Jacketed Hollow Point 20 $19.99 $1.00 Cabelas

As for .32 H&R magnum... no soap. Seems like everyone is backlogged on that ammo.

Plenty of .32 S&W Long out there to be had.
Oh,yes. Came across this for .327 Federal magnum.
www.ammobank.com/ - Cached

All they have in .327 is the Federal 85gr. Hydra-shok. Seems like everyone is out of .327 Federal in Speer's 115gr. Gold Dot or the 100gr. Eagle ammo.

I've searched high and low for .327 ammo. Found only the Federal 85gr. pills.

Have to keep looking at Cheaperthandirt.com, Natchez, J&G sales, AIM Surplus,and Midway USA. Cabelas and Sportsman's Guide are places to keep and eye on during the week and frequently. Ammo comes and goes rather quickly.
 
Some articles which discuss reloading for the .32 H&R Magnum emphasize attaining the highest possible velocity and energy, but this defeats the purpose of this mild, efficient dual-purpose, revolver or rifle small game cartridge. In my experience high velocity, JHP varmint bullets, such as the 85-gr. Hornady XTP cause excessive meat damage to table game. Higher velocities also cause more rapid bullet expansion, which reduces penetration needed for killing effectiveness on larger predator animals.

Revolver loads at around 1000 f.p.s. give reasonable trajectory to enable 100 yard hits.A 115-120 grain solid lead flat-nosed bullet such as the Saeco #322, Lyman #311008 or NEI #82 plainbase, at subsonic velocity is non-destructive for edible small game but have fully adequate energy and penetration to be effective against predators such as feral dogs or coyotes. When the same mild loads are fired from rifles velocities approach 1300 f.p.s., approximating the .32-20, adequate for some expansion with soft alloys of 8-11 BHN, giving good game performance and acceptable field accuracy with an economical, plain-based cast bullet.

Non-casters can buy and reload the Hornady the 90-gr. SWC or 94-gr. Meister .312" LFN. These lighter bullets work best with mild loads in the H&R Magnum with 3.0 to 3.5 grains of Bullseye or 3.5 or 4 grains of Unique or SR-7625, which remain subsonic in a 4-5/8 inch revolver. If you want a larger meplat on your bullets to better let the air out of bunny wabbits use the 98-gr. Saeco #325 semi wad-cutter with these charges. I normally expect 2-inch groups at 25 yards hand-held off sandbags with the Ruger Single Six and my Marlin 1894CB give the same results with iron sights out at 50 yards.

The 1894 Marlin cowboy rifle doesn't feed .32 S&W Longs unless bullets are seated out to provide an overall cartridge length greater than 1.3”. The traditional flat-nosed 122-gr. Saeco #322 cowboy bullet seated out in .32 S&W Long cases, crimped in the lubricating groove at 1.35" OAL is also suitable for the S&W Models 30 and 31 revolvers using 2 grains of Bullseye for 850 f.p.s. from the Marlin or 750 f.p.s. in the Single-Six. If you want a bit flatter trajectory and better reach at the expense of a more noise, you can increase the charge in the Ruger revolver or Marlin up to 2.5 grs. of in .32 S&W Long brass Bullseye for 820 f.p.s. from the revolver or 1030 f.p.s. in the Marlin rifle, which is very low noise.

I have not fooled much with slower powders, because it requires heavier charges of more expensive powder for not much more velocity, and these loads are much louder and less accurate than my milder loads with Bullseye.

The Lyman handbook nonsense which suggests sizing cast bullets to barrel groove diameter still persists in common folklore circulated for the .32 H&R Magnum. The usually-recommended .312 bullet diameter severely limits its potential accuracy for some users.

Cast bullets intended for revolvers should always be sized so they may be pushed through the chamber from the rear and out the front of the cylinder throat with slight resistance using only hand pressure. Cylinder throats of Ruger revolvers vary from .309” up to .314,” depending upon when the gun was made. If bullets fall through the chambers of their own weight you may as well throw rocks. If you can’t push bullets through by hand, but rounds chamber and extract freely, you can shoot them in below-maximum loads, at some expense to accuracy.

In my experience Marlin chambers run sloppy. My rifle readily chambers and extracts accepts ammunition assembled with un-sized .315 diameter bullets in Starline cases. It likes best the NEI #82 115-gr. FN (shortened version with GC shank removed, which resembles Lyman #3118) cast 10-12 BHN with 3.0 grs. of Bullseye in Starline .32 H&R Mag. cases at 1.45" OAL, using a light film of Lee Liquid Alox.

For general purpose use in modern .32 S&W Long revolvers, the Marlin 1894CB and my single-shot H&R I have settled on the 115-gr. version of the NEI #82, which is plain based with the GC heel removed. It resembles the old #3118 being .63 long with .315 bands, .303 bore riding nose and .195 diameter meplat. I cast these 10BHN from soft scrap lead, tumble in Lee Liquid Alox and load unsized at .315 in .32 S&W Long cases using Federal 200 primers and 2.5 grains of Alliant Bullseye at 1.32" OAL.

Velocity is 750 f.p.s. in my 3-inch S&W M31, 830 fps in the 4" M31 and Colt Police Positive, 870 fps in the 4-5/8 inch Ruger Single Six and about 1000 fps from the 20 inch Marlin 1894CB. Its report when fired in a rifle is like shooting a .22 LR. Velocity standard deviations are in single-digits. This load gives inch 5-shot groups at 25 yards with peep sights in either of the rifles and "about 2 inches" +/- at 25 yards from the modern revolvers off sandbags when you can screw your eyeballs in tight enough.

For those few occasions when I want a more powerful cast bullet load I use 3.5 grs. of Bullseye in Starline .32 H&R Mag. brass which gives the 115-gr. 1030 fps from the 4-5/8" Ruger single Six, and 1280 f.p.s. from the 20 inch Marlin 1894CB. This approximates standard velocity lead .32-20 loads in performance.
 
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In the past week or two I've seen lots of it at 3 different stores in my area. Of course, I've also seen shelves covered in Remington and WWB .380acp in those same stores too (FMJ at least, very little JHP).

The thing about the whole ammo shortage that has had me scratching my head has been the apparent extreme variance across the country - even just within an hour or two drive of home, I hear stories of nothing in some caliber's for months, while I've had much less problem finding the same rounds near home.

It's just weird.
 
Yeah, only one shop near me has Makarov ammo and it is really cheap. Go figure...
 
I can get the American Eagle loading and the hydrashok loading at my local shop. Try locally.
 
http://www.ammoengine.com

Click on this link and then enter the ammo caliber you want, i.e. .327 magnum and the online places that have it will come up.

.32 H&R magnum is another problem. I cruise the www.jgsales.com
www.natchezss.com www.cheaperthandirt.com www.midwayusa.com
www.ableammo.com for the most part and visit either ammo engine.com and the online stores every couple of days.

Since ammo shipments come and go so quicly one has to do something like this or somthing similar to stay on top of things. Especially if the local areas stores don't have it.

Other places to look are Sportsman's Guide online or Cabelas online places.
 
In support of handloading the .32 revo cartridges: I thought of taking up handloading for years, but was intimidated by the idea, didn't want to get a ton of expensive gear, etc.

Finally broke down and gave loading .32 a try with a Lyman Hand Press. Turns out it was really quite easy, all the gear cost me maybe $70 total (before expendable components), and if you ammortise the cost of brass I'm probably paying like 8c a round or something.

Oh, and all my gear and some components (except for the powder bottle) fit into one of those small 24"x8"x8" toolboxes.
 
There are many who reload the .32s and have no or little problem.

Several articles in the gun press lately have shown how to do it and praise the .32 calibers. These were in depth articles. Since a lot of people forget the printed media they will miss well represented details and the how to do it.

Good call, MatthewVanitas
 
I have seen .32 online recently, but .327 still seems to be a mythical beast...
 
Manufacturer Description Grain Bullet Category Rounds/
Box Price/
Box Price/
Round Location
1. Federal Premium Hydra-Shok Jacketed Hollow Point 85 Jacketed Hollow Point 20 $19.99 $1.00 Cabelas
2. Federal Premium Personal Defense Hydra-Shok Jacketed Hollow Point 85 Jacketed Hollow Point 20 $39.99 $2.00 AmmoBank

This is from ammo engine. There are two places that currently have .327 Federal.

These are not great prices, but it is available.

Granted, the offerings are slim.

I'm looking for the Speer and Federal Eagle offerings myself.

Regular Federal loadings I have.
 
I see and buy .32H&R and .32S&W all the time for decent prices. I've never even SEEN a box of .327Federal!

I reload the .32H&R and have had great success with the 100gr cast lead bullet from Missouri Bullet company (Cowboy #6). Out of my old H&R revolver it will shoot 2" all day at 10 yards, and about twice that at 25 yards. I can load that bullet for something like 12 cent a round.

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