Quieting-down the noise of cycling a bolt action rifle?

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I just got my first bolt-action rifle a couple of weeks ago - have a couple of .30 cal semi-autos, a slide-pump.22 and a Rossi .45 lever rifle. The new, noisy rifle is a synthetic stock Marlin 917 (.17 HMR). Besides being more than a little sticky to rotate the bolt to lock-position and jerk it back up out of lock to rack rotation, it is JUST PLAIN NOISY. Lots of hard clunks against bolt-rotation stops, but also several clicks and clacks as you withdraw the bolt and several more clacks and pops as you slam it forward again.

I guess I am spoiled. The .308 Win semi-autos are probably just as noisy, but the bolt-cycling/feeding noise is all over before the muzzle report has subsided. The slide pump and lever action rifles are well-worn-in and just make a pleasant, continuous clatter as you cycle them.

I know that the Marly 917 is a low-end rifle, so I shouldn't expect much. But I cannot imagine getting off a second shot at squirrels, rabbits or other skittish game after cycling this little beast.

Can anyone give me a recipe for deburr, lap-and-polish, honing or other simple "fluff & buff" steps to loosen this bolt action and make it quieter? Or maybe some after-market springs of lighter weight could be sub'd in, if I keep the action clean so I don't need idiot-proof gorilla-stomp spring tension? I mean, for crying out loud! - we're talking the smallest-bore rimfire available, 0.17". How many bank-vault-gauge bars and bolts and springs and latches are really needed?

Or am I just up S__t Creek in a chicken-wire canoe with a paper paddle? All bolt actions are this clunky? Here is a video of a $10,000 rifle, Remington's newest Modular Sniper Rifle (MSR), wherein the sniper could be heard racking his bolt a mile away at a train-crossing (while the train is passing by!!) Is this normal?
 
Quick question

why do you think the noise matters? Needing to cycle the bolt assumes you've shot at something. Meaning the target is either dead or now knows it's being shot at.

IME small game us just as likely to be curious about gunfire as scared. Sometimes the commotion and thrashing about of wounded squirells is just the thing needed to bring out more of the furry lil bastards. As to rabbits, if you don't kill him with the first shot you won't get another.

As to the rifle itself you'd be amazed at what some good ol red "military grease" can do when applied to key points.
 
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Smooth out the machine parts. Some of the noise might be made loader by a hollow synthetic stock. A drum effect.

Yes there are times when chambering the first round would require as little noise as possible.
 
Krochus,

I s'pect you're right on all counts.

I really do want the action to cycle more smoothly. It is sticky. The way I was raised around machines, quieter means it's workin' better. But maybe it is just an asthetic thing.

I still do want good amateur gunsmithing advice, though.

The rest of the stuff I threw in was to stir up a good, heated thread. I get a check each month from Art Eatman according to how many provocative threads I start or fan the flames of. (What? You didn't know about the THR "rebate" program ;) )
 
You could 'polish' the lug, ways and abutments but you'll do more harm than good.

Keep it wet with a THIN oil like Kroil and while your doing nothing in front of the TV for the next month, cycle the bolt over and over, often wiping the oil out of the action and off the bolt when it turns dark, re-oil and repeat.

In essence, your breaking the action in....accelerated style!

Also, the cocking force on that rifle is pretty stout, so you put a lot of force behind lifting the bolt, this results in a loud(er) clunk when the bolt unlocks.

Problem is, there are no aftermarket springs for that particular rifle that would lighten the cocking force, one could call a place like Wolf springs with the dimensions of your OEM spring, including the poundage, which you might get out of the manufacturer, if you ask really nicely, and they may be able to assist you in your quest.

After the action has 'loosened up' from all the action working, keep it coated with a good oil such as Mil-Com MC2500.
 
Uncle Mike,

I think you are right. The spring that determines cocking force IS very stout. On the rear end of the bolt assembly there is a protruding cap or indicator that is in the rearward position when the gun is cocked and snaps forward when you pull the trigger. You CAN cock the gun by manipulating this protruding cap alone, if you are Gozilla and have a pair of vice-grip pliers to grip the cap with. Actually, it was when I was trying to de-cock the gun that I played with this protruding cap. I hear it is bad to dry-fire a rimfire action, because the hammer (or firing pin) might dent the "anvil" if there is no cartridge in the chamber. Is that true of this Marly 917 rifle? Anyway, it would be nice to be able to gently de-cock the gun. This strong spring appears to be the main reason you cannot do this operation.

Why is there such a stout spring on this motion? Surely it does not take that kind of force to detonate a wimpy, thin-walled rim-primed cartridge? I guess the stout springs overcomes a multitude of sins if you let the action get really gummed up and sticky...

Too bad to hear that there are not readily-available after-market springs for the 917 to lighten this aspect of the action. Could I just snip off a couple of loops of the stock spring? It would be better to have a full factory-length spring, just formed out of lighter wire, I think.
 
The folks who made the Deslisle carbines cut a little notch out o the stock, right where the bolt handle lands when closed, and filled it with cork; to avoid the "knock on wood" sound of closing the bolt.
Might help with that last "clunk" you are hearing.
C-
 
EBR = Evil Black Rifle? I thought it stood for Enhanced Battle Rifle.

Evil black rifle is a generic term used to describe any AR15 or other like firearm with black furniture that looks "scary" or "mean" to an anti. Enhanced battle rifle is a specific weapon, based IIRC on the M14.
 
Just shoot the thing. After a few thousand rounds it will be a lot smoother and you will learn how to cycle it so fast it will be done before the sound of the shot has subsided.
 
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EBR = Evil Black Rifle? I thought it stood for Enhanced Battle Rifle.

Evil black rifle is a generic term used to describe any AR15 or other like firearm with black furniture that looks "scary" or "mean" to an anti. Enhanced battle rifle is a specific weapon, based IIRC on the M14.

All this time I thought everyone was calling a AR 15 a Enhanced Battle Rifle.
 
Uncle Mike said: Keep it wet with a THIN oil like Kroil and while your doing nothing in front of the TV for the next month, cycle the bolt over and over, often wiping the oil out of the action and off the bolt when it turns dark, re-oil and repeat.

In essence, you're breaking the action in....accelerated style!
What about using Hoppe's No. 9 Solvent for this breaking in? It is really light and would "float away" rubbings fairly well. And it is a little bit oily, to keep rust from forming.
 
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