Looking for rifled slugs that do not lead up a barrel
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Greg Koziol
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I always used winchester super X 1 oz slugs... i've used them in my rifle barrel actually, they are powerful 1760 fps. Never had any "lead streaks" but i've had normal lead build up from lots of target shooting... which needs to be cleaned... buts its not terribly... i'm guessing thats what you mean by lead streaks. You can get the REMINGTON COPPER SOLIDS... those are good too
Yes, streaking from regular shooting.
I have thought about using the all copper sabots with a rifled barrel, but hate to lose the extra advantage of buckshot with the same barrel due to the rifling.
Remington BuckHammer slugs are easy to find and not too expensive. I shot a few; they were accurate and I didn't notice any leading. They don't have an expanding lead skirt so that should help. I used a rifled barrel; I think you would want at least a rifled choke tube for good accuracy with these. A rifled choke tube shouldn't mess up your buckshot patterns as much as a rifled barrel.
Jason_W
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If you have a place to do so, you could cast your own slugs from the lee mold. They fit into a AA wad, so lead doesn't touch your barrel. They say they're intended for rifled barrels, but so far they also do OK from my smooth bore.
Remington recommends at least a rifled choke tube, but you may not even need that if you're shooting under 50 yards.
Not in my case at least. I know what you're worried about; a friend borrowed my shotgun a couple seasons ago take a few doe and he shot a bunch of cheap rifled slugs. My Mossberg barrel is rifled, but you can see machine marks on top of the rifling. When he returned it, I could see the lead stuck to the rifling.
I think the Foster slugs lead up the barrel because of the hollow base; the pressure behind it causes the soft lead skirt to expand and fill the bore, thus scraping lead down the bore.
Jason_W
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I have to wonder, though. Is lead in the bore really that big of a deal? Especially for a smooth bore shotgun. Prior to the invention of jacketed bullets, all people shot was lead.
Yes, but standard practice to remove bore leading, back then, was to seal up one end of the barrel and fill it with mercury! Mercury will dissolve lead but not steel. Then you'd just dump the mercury down the kitchen sink, I guess. It's actually a great bore-cleaning method that won't harm or abrade the barrel at all, unlike brass brushes or brass mesh patches, and that will get every last bit of lead out, also unlike mechanical cleaning. You just need to be able to safely dispose of the mercury-lead amalgam afterwards, which isn't easy or cheap at all these days.
Times have changed in more ways than just lead bullets becoming less popular.
Carne Frio
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If you can have ammo sent to you, check
out this web site. It will let you pick the
dealer who can ship it.
http://ammoseek.com/?gun=shotgun&cal=311&shot_size=slug&shell_length=&mfg=96&keywords=&sortby=cpr
out this web site. It will let you pick the
dealer who can ship it.
http://ammoseek.com/?gun=shotgun&cal=311&shot_size=slug&shell_length=&mfg=96&keywords=&sortby=cpr
Wow, it would be great if at least some forster type slugs came like this with a plastic sleave. They do not really need barrel rifling to stabilize so why not redesign them for a sleave to prevent barrel leading. I might have to consider casting my own slugs.
The Breneke ammo price has gone sky high since I first tried their super magnums. I wouldn't mind buying several cases. I just can't remember if their coating actually helped keep lead from smearing on thebore. I spent 3 hours once soaking a barrel smooth bore to get nearly 95 % of the build up off. It not fun at all.
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Boris bush
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Go to Midwayusa and look at the Brenneke slugs. They make a 12 gauge 'sabot' load that shoots a 20 gauge 1oz slug. It is just a 20 gauge slug in a wad.
Thay are nice shooters and they penetrate deeper than the 1oz full 12gauge version....
Youngster
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There's also the Fiocchi Aeroslug and others makes that use a Gualandi type slug, these are a relatively hard lead slug with a wad attached to the base, similar to Brenneke slugs. They lead much less than Fosters.
I no longer care about leading however since I started using gel bore cleaners, gels adhere to the bore much better than liquids and if they're given enough time to work they'll basically do all the work for you.
I no longer care about leading however since I started using gel bore cleaners, gels adhere to the bore much better than liquids and if they're given enough time to work they'll basically do all the work for you.
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There is also the Rio Star slug. I have seen two versions though. One like the Fiocchi and one that has a wad molded right to the slug and the fins are not 'rifled' but are straight. The lead is very hard and they do not lead and are accurate to an extreme!!
My762buzz...if you reload I have some of the Lyman, sabot-type, hollowbase, hard cast slugs made up I can send you to experiment with...they work great in my Mossberg 500 rifled barrel. No charge except to pay the $5 Priority mail fee. (I think I have 20-25 slugs).
I experimented with .690 round balls of soft lead w/o a sabot (wad)...and that really leaded up my rifled barrel but the lead pushed out in strips with just a bronze cleaning brush.
I experimented with .690 round balls of soft lead w/o a sabot (wad)...and that really leaded up my rifled barrel but the lead pushed out in strips with just a bronze cleaning brush.
Jason_W
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Handloading them in general opens up a lot of possibilities, and it really does cut costs. If I reuse hulls and scavenge lead, I can load up the lee slugs for almost free. I have not tried the lyman slugs yet, but I've heard great things about them.
My offer for a few free Lyman, flat nose, hollow-base slugs is open to anyone that seriously wants to reload and experiment with them if My762Buzz doesn't reload.
The only "strings attached" is you load and use them within 60 days and post the results with pics on the THR forum!!!!!!!!
The only "strings attached" is you load and use them within 60 days and post the results with pics on the THR forum!!!!!!!!
I have been using Gun Slick foam bore cleaner but have not tested to see how quick it dissolves lead from a bore.
I used to have some reloading equiptment available but don't currently.
I might get a single stage press soon enough.
kd7nqb
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I used some federal vital shock slugs in my 870 today and didn't notice any streaks of lead but I only shot about 8.
Youngster
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Let it sit for at least an hour or two before you do any scrubbing, longer would probably be even better. I remember a time when both a friend and I detail cleaned our shotguns after a long day's shooting, I soaked my barrel first and went to work on the other stuff, while my friend didn't touch his barrel until last.
Long story short, my barrel took one pass with a wire brush and a few patches to literally get squeaky clean, his went ugly.
valorius
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Why not just use .50cal sabot slugs with a rifled choke and not worry about it?
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