Polishing brass with stainless media, and some prep work pics. LOTS of pics!

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I thought some people might like to see this.

I have recently started tumbling with stainless pins in a Thumlers Tumbler. Wow does it work! For this post I took 50 of the grungiest .223 cases I could find. I was given tens of thousands of empties that were picked up on a military firing range. So I went to those cases and dug out some really ugly ones to show how great this method of brass polishing works.

Here are the 50 cases I pulled out. Pretty ugly!

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In this pic I am setting up my Dillon 550 press and Dillon RT-1200 power case trimmer/re-sizer. I have a universal decapper in station one and the RT-1200 in station 3.

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These cases are processed through the 550. You can see the case mouths are shiny from being trimmed. Per the case gage these are ready to be loaded and fired. The primer pockets look miserable though, and the cases are still incredibly dirty and ugly!

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As anyone who reloads military 223 will tell you, primer crimps are a pain in the butt! Here is my Dillon Super Swage 600 about to take the crimp out of one of the processed cases.

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Finally all the prep work is done and we can get to the really good part! Here are the cases in the drum of the Thumlers tumbler. The stainless media is in the bottom. After this pic was taken I added water, dish soap, and some Lemi Shine.

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Then it was onto the tumbling.

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For ULTRA shiny brass you can tumble four hours. I have found 2.5 hours gets the brass more than clean enough for my standards. The following pic shows 2.5 hours worth of tumbling. And I swear that is the same brass from the first pic. I did pull out two of the ones from the original pic as the case mouths were just too darn torn up from SAW usage. But I replaced them with ones just as ugly! Once the media, brass, and water are all separated I put the brass onto a cookie shoot and put them in the oven for 20 minutes at 200 degrees. Don't tell Mrs. Exposure though! :D

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Primer pockets come out just as nice. I tried like heck to get a pic of the case interiors which are just as clean as the outside, but I just couldn't get one I was happy with.

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And a side by side pic.

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For those of you with sharp eyes you may note there is a Dillon 1050 lurking in a couple of the pics. Yes I could do this on my 1050 and save the hassle of swaging on the SS600 but it is a lot of work to set that press up. So for these shorter runs it is a much bigger time saver to just do it on the 550!
 
Awesome. I don't even own a .223 chambered rifle, but have a few hundred cases in good condition.

Those primer pockets look fantastic. Something else I've found is a small steel dremel brush. I fix it on the workstand, so it's horizontal.

I've heard some people prefer using a universal decapper, so it's not critical the brass be clean - and damage to sizing dies avoided.

Assuming the brass is clean, but not polished, why not just full length resize and decap prior to tumbling?

Just wondering. Nice photos!
 
mh38sp said-

Where do you buy your SS media and how much?

The media came from http://www.stainlesstumblingmedia.com/ It is $50 per 5 lbs. That five pounds will do about 2 lbs of empty cases. So it is not a cheap polishing alternative but worth every penny to me.

smurf hunter said-

Awesome. I don't even own a .223 chambered rifle, but have a few hundred cases in good condition.

Those primer pockets look fantastic. Something else I've found is a small steel dremel brush. I fix it on the workstand, so it's horizontal.

I've heard some people prefer using a universal decapper, so it's not critical the brass be clean - and damage to sizing dies avoided.

Assuming the brass is clean, but not polished, why not just full length resize and decap prior to tumbling?

Just wondering. Nice photos!

The brass is clean enough for me to put through my dies. In my process the brass is de-capped in station one of my press. Then in station three it is full length sized, and then trimmed to length by the Dillon RT-1200. That thing is quite the tool I have to say! So when the rounds come out of the press the only things they need is a swage on the primer pockets and tumble in the SS media.

gilgomesjr said-

NICE!!! How hard is it to separate the brass/media/water? If I stuck brass in my wife's oven, though... I'd have to hide the rolling pin


The separation process is kind of tricky. It takes some time and patience so that you don't put a bunch of the SS media down the sink drain. But with a little practice you get pretty good at it!
 
Do you worry about the SS media removing metal from the cases? Is there any evidence this occurs? SS is obviously harder than brass so I am wondering if this could produce any negative results in regards to integrity of the casing.
 
The 55,000 pieces of SS media act like lots of little fingers in every little crook & cranny digging at whatever dirt it can loosen, the soap washes it away, dissolves the oil, grease, wax, gunk, and carries it in solution to be washed away when draining the tumbler barrel.
 
it's a great method but that's way too high a price for the media.
Try Pelletsllc.com - $5 per 5 pounds and our order of 25#s shipped for $10.50.

The standard size is designated SCW 41/250 .... .041 * .25

They're familiar with selling to the reloading market ... phone is 716.693.1750

No relationship, just a satisfied customer.
/Bryan
 
I would worry about work hardening the cases. I know with jewelry making we harden chains and jewelry components by tumbling in SS media, of course silver and gold are softer than copper and brass but you might want to anneal them after a couple of runs through the tumbler.
 
I would worry about work hardening the cases.
Benchrest shooters have been using SS wet tumbling for quite a few years with good results. The wet tumbling in water buffers the very light and small SS wire shots (they are about the diameter of small paper clip and 1/4 inch long).

Bryan, thanks for the info!

I have happily used walnut/corn for pistol brass for years, but now that I am reloading rifle, want to examine the SS wet tumbling again to clean out the inside of the case and primer pockets.

At that price, I may resume my 3-5 gallon bucket wet tumbler project using an old garage door opener motor. :D
 
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I started using this media just over a month ago. I won't be going back to the "dusty" media.

No more primer pocket cleaning, worrying about carbon buildup inside the case, and the tumbling does a more than adequate job of de-burring the case mouth for loading jacketed bullets.

The Media is "permanent" so unlike cob and shell medias it doesn't have to be replaced fairly regularly.

Biggest single benefit is no more worries of lead dust contamination.

For those that worry about "work hardening", you get more from resizing and shooting. I anneal my cases after 5-6 reloads to insure that I get the maximum life. Easy to see the color change with cases processed by this method.
 
As a guy who's considering tumbling (right now I don't tumble, just wash, soak, rinse, dry), can SS media be used in a vibratory tumbler? Or does it require a rotary tumbler?
 
It must be a rotary so it can handle water.

I've had good success with my Midway 1292 vibratory polisher and water. I can't recommend it, as water and electricity are a bad combination, but by using neoprene gasqets I eliminated any leakage and ran the unit outside so if there were any leaks the risk of shock and fire would be minimized. I was using sand as the medium, which tends to compact, so there wasn't as much polishing action (I imagine that the SS would not be phased by it).
 
Really nice looking brass. I believe I'll stick with my tumbler. I'm too 'frugal' I guess.
 
There is nothing new about this tech. Same idea is a constant in industrial and rebuilder circles. I saw this idea in practice 30 years a go at a automotive parts rebuilder. And some much more advanced operations concerning clean up and core part prep work.

There really isn't anything ground breaking and new in the firearms world. LMAO!!!
 
For all you that think it's too expensive consider not having to buy corn cob, walnut shell, or polish, again. Uses dish soap and the "Lemi-Shine" merely acts as a water softener so the cases dry nice and spot free. A container of that costs $3 and will last for as many as 500 batches.

Also don't have any more dust lead contaminated or not.
 
Yep, one time purchase, but I can get 40 lbs. of corncob media delivered to my door for $25.00. That lasts me for a long time. I'd try the SS if it were a little cheaper...
 
Only reason I don't try it yet is having to buy another tumbler. Perhaps when mine die I'll switch.
 
I've had good success with my Midway 1292 vibratory polisher and water. I can't recommend it, as water and electricity are a bad combination, but by using neoprene gasqets I eliminated any leakage and ran the unit outside so if there were any leaks the risk of shock and fire would be minimized. I was using sand as the medium, which tends to compact, so there wasn't as much polishing action (I imagine that the SS would not be phased by it).
Spam, it seems to me that SAND would be pretty tough on your size dies. I know I would not want to put sand through my dies???Bill..
 
billybob, I thoroughly rinse the cases after tumbling. I've damaged dies before from not properly prepping the cases and don't want to do it again. Plus, the polishing results were marginal with sand, but see much more promise with the SS (also thoroughly rinsed pre-sizing).
 
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