Please help! SWD M11

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Ok , so Ive got an SWD M11 (mac 11) manufactured in good ole ducktown TN. (semi auto) Anyways, I'm kind of stuck here and I know someone out there can help me out.

I traded for this thing, and im having true failure to extract, everytime i fire the pistol the casing only exits about half way out of the chamber. I know the extracter is fine, because it works A-ok with the carbine upper i have for it. Also, theres significant damage to the rim of the cartridge as though the extracter has ripped right through it. The chamber also does not appear to be rough or coarse... and theres less then a mm of play while the bullet sits unfired in the chamber. (this appears to be acceptable because once again, the carbine upper works fine under the same circumstances.) either way, every time i fire it seems like the case maybe over expands because it gets stuck in there and its difficult to get out. Ive used four different kinds of ammo, (all of which worked fine in the carbine upper)

im not sure if yall know how this works but the upper for the m11 is just a barrel and a frame, the rest of it (bolt, springs, ejecter, everything) just swaps from upper to upper.


does anyone have an suggestions to what this might be?

i keep going back to thinking it has to be a damaged , dirty, or fouled chamber, but ive done a significant share of cleaning and polishing.

what say you of this boondoggle>?:banghead:
 
nobody can help with this issue?
Some of us have to sleep sometime!

I doubt there are too many with much work experiance fixing MAC-10 clones either.
I sure don't, cause I would have to get my arm twisted to work on one.

Anyway, I'd suggest you look at the possibility the rounds are setting too high in the magazine.

That allows the case rim of the extracting round to get knocked off the extractor hook by the next round coming up in the magazine.

rc
 
I hear ya

I definitly hear what both of you are saying, the only thing that has me confused is that like I said, there are two different uppers. (pistol and carbine) Both of which use the same bolt, bolt spring, ejector, firing pin, everything is the exact same because it swaps from the pistol upper to the carbine upper (the carbine upper works flawlessly). effectively, the only thing you change when you swap the uppers, is the barrel, and what I would assume would be called the dust cover (which houses and also supports the barrel)

this leads me to believe that there is an issue with my chamber,

but i dont want to fork out the dough for that if its not going to fix it...

im already a lil upside down in it..


any home remedies?
 
For learnings sake.

Ok heres how the one gun looks broken down into the pieces

carbine upper on top

pistol upper below,

(they each have their own barrel)

the on the bottom left (switches between the uppers)

and finally the lower and trigger assembly on the bottom right...
 

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See my above post.

You have two upper receivers using the same bolt & lower. Right?

If the I.D. measurement of the sheet metal upper is bent slightly different on one upper then the other, the same bolt sets lower in relation to the chamber.
Which makes the rounds in the same lower receivers magazine set higher in relation to the bottom of the bolt in one upper then the other.

Which could cause a top round in the mag to get whacked by the ejecting case in one upper and not the other upper.

See why I don't work on them now???

BTW: Sorry to hear you are upside down on your MAC 11-Clone.
IMO: On the bright side, everyone else who bought one is too, unless they bought one on the street!

rc
 
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If they were mine I would swap barrel assemblies and see if it was the barrel or the upper receiver that was the culprit. As mentioned the measurements on each could be compared and some tweaking done when a difference is found. I would have suggested the upper receiver front was bent if the problem had happened with the longer barrel but the other way around not as likely that is the problem.
 
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