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Senate Democrats released a "Guide to Guns." While most of the termonology that causes us to have issue such as using clips and magazines interchangably have been "corrected" they still harp on their favorite one in semi-automatic characteristics:

Defining characteristics: A firearm that fires, extracts, ejects and reloads once for each pull and release of the trigger. Some have military-style parts. Also known as modern hunting rifles and assault rifles, the National Shooting Sports Foundation says these models are popular with veterans of modern wars who used similar guns in combat and like the extra features.

Full guide here:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/national/guide-to-guns/
 
Wow. I guess a Non-modern rifle like a wooden stocked m1a is...what?...Or...Hmmm. This hurts my brain. These people are idiots.
 
The only reason they even care about correct terminology is because they're hoping to win over gun guys to their cause. They've figured out that nobody takes them seriously when they get up there and rave about "30 magazine clips" for half an hour.
 
I'm still looking for the Streetsweeper shotgun with a "100 round shell drum clip". Hopefully, it comes with a construction crane for lifting and transporting.
 
Wow, they are really starting to sound reasonable, now that they are getting their terminology straight! It all makes sense now! The anti's sound so impressive, that I'm starting to see their point. I mean, why would anyone need those "imploding 100 clip military style full jacketed sniper grade hollowtail boat pointed bullets" anyway? You don't need those to hunt with...

FAIL! Try again, and this time, do more than 'look at pictures in gun magazines' to see the latest in weapons technology, with those new fangled grips and shoulder things that go up.

Clowns. On fire. Sad, yet strangely funny...
 
Right!? Let's just use some common sense, things that, well that, you know, that we can ALL agree on! No sportsman needs a barrel shroud and a shoulder thing. I think we can ALL agree on that. And those high caliber clips, those aren't necessary...
 
As a veteran, I feel that I have been stereotyped. I also strongly resent the suggestion (subtle, and occasionaly overt) that I was trusted to kill or die for my country when they found it useful, but somehow untrustworthy, dangerous, or 'not quite right' now that I'm home.

ATTENTION U.S. CONGRESS: we did not kill men because we enjoy it... we did it because you ordered us to do it. YOU are the ones to be feared.
 
wow the level of stupidity hurts

the only scary thing, is that unlike the usual 'politicians/journalist's guide to guns'
they are serious
 
I just read the "Guide to Guns." and found it to be good entry level information, most of what they stated was correct. I know this information was put together to be used in arguments against us, yet I can't help but believe that the huge middle ground, those who don't have any strong feelings about the shooting sports either way, were to read this they may have a better understanding of what our sport is all about.
 
What do we need these semi-automatic assault clips and shoulder things that go up? haven't you heard that Saiga 12's can have as much as a 100 rounds per ammunition magazine clip and can carry nuclear tipped implosion rounds?

What's wrong with you people :p
 
As a veteran, I feel that I have been stereotyped. I also strongly resent the suggestion (subtle, and occasionaly overt) that I was trusted to kill or die for my country when they found it useful, but somehow untrustworthy, dangerous, or 'not quite right' now that I'm home.

ATTENTION U.S. CONGRESS: we did not kill men because we enjoy it... we did it because you ordered us to do it. YOU are the ones to be feared.

VERY well said!

Dan
 
Texan Scott said:
As a veteran, I feel that I have been stereotyped. I also strongly resent the suggestion (subtle, and occasionaly overt) that I was trusted to kill or die for my country when they found it useful, but somehow untrustworthy, dangerous, or 'not quite right' now that I'm home.

ATTENTION U.S. CONGRESS: we did not kill men because we enjoy it... we did it because you ordered us to do it. YOU are the ones to be feared.

Here here. I am also pretty sure the main reason why the M16 was adopted was to make it harder to put marks in the buttstock...[/sarcasm]
 
as a veteran, i feel that i have been stereotyped. I also strongly resent the suggestion (subtle, and occasionaly overt) that i was trusted to kill or die for my country when they found it useful, but somehow untrustworthy, dangerous, or 'not quite right' now that i'm home.

Attention u.s. Congress: We did not kill men because we enjoy it... We did it because you ordered us to do it. You are the ones to be feared.
+1,000,000!
 
As a veteran, I feel that I have been stereotyped. I also strongly resent the suggestion (subtle, and occasionaly overt) that I was trusted to kill or die for my country when they found it useful, but somehow untrustworthy, dangerous, or 'not quite right' now that I'm home.

ATTENTION U.S. CONGRESS: we did not kill men because we enjoy it... we did it because you ordered us to do it. YOU are the ones to be feared.

This is just magnificent.
 
As a veteran, I feel that I have been stereotyped. I also strongly resent the suggestion (subtle, and occasionaly overt) that I was trusted to kill or die for my country when they found it useful, but somehow untrustworthy, dangerous, or 'not quite right' now that I'm home.
I'm sure the theory is that soldiers only enlist because they are homocidal to begin with *countenance falls, shakes head*. Apparently sense of duty is a mental illness now (and the Anti's/Statists are somehow nihilists ;))

Yep. They are kept off to the side so they do not corrupt the rest of Hell's residents....
Riiight next to the black rifles :D

Questions/comments on the article:
-Is 300,000 guns siezed in crimes legit, or does that merely include those siezed for evidence (i.e. suicides, justifiable homocide, defense, etc.)
-Why the hell is the Webley listed a "well known" revolver model here in the states?:D:confused:
-Revolvers are hardly "not regulated"
-"Tactical Pistol" haven't heard that one, kinda like it; better than "Machine pistol" which is what I think they actually meant (since "assault rifle" now means semi-auto, and all)
-Ithaca pumps aren't considered common anymore :(
-Glaring lack of definition of "military style parts" at this point (just like the laws :banghead:)
-Manually reloaded guns are hardly unregulated (twice, now :cuss:)
-AK is noticeably absent from Common Rifles list (though props for Saiga in shotguns)
-"also known as assault rifles" :yuk: yeah, to people who decided on their own to call them that to connote them with select-fires
-I'm sure the NSSF said they were popular with people besided vets :rolleyes: and the article just forgot that detail (they really do think we're Fudds in this day and age!)
-Well thank God "Full Auto" got it's own category; don't see that often. Understandably so, seeing as they're so rare in real life and so common in the movies, that writers assume they're all the same. Thank you for not stating "generally unregulated" :D. I love how a registry is "heavily regulated" but a proposed UBC and registry are "common sense." I'm sure they're just ignorant the registry was closed in '86 and not '34.
-No picture of the frequently-regulated Broomhandle with its fixed, slow-load fixed magazine alongside the box-mag
-CASES ARE NOT DISPOSABLE! :D

All in all, pretty good for journalists. Best I've seen in a while. Major props to the Post for at least not infuriating me as I read through this. Aside from the bizarre "unregulated" assertions (which I assume refer to AWB restrictions), this infosheet is probably close enough for government work (or at least help them know what the heck they're actually banning). This should be required reading for the Senate/House subcommittee hearings on this stuff (as well as an FFA/NFA primer).

I told the Post they should do a piece on existing federal gun laws, in a similar vein (what applies to what types of guns, and how they're licensed)

Looks like they cleaned up the article.
Ah, so that explains it. Well, kudos to them for actually listening; that's new--and promising :)

TCB
 
They are simply learning our language so that they may use it against us more effectively.
 
They'll still find a way to make themselves sound completely ignorant

They will, because for most of these people, actually knowing anything about firearms is, apparently, contaminating and beneath their dignity.
 
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