VA gubernatorial candidate wants CO gun laws

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Democrat VA gubernatorial candidate Terry McAuliffe just added this to his website:

Support common sense gun control measures
As Governor, Terry will support mainstream and majority supported gun control measures like universal background checks, limiting the size of magazines, and a return to the 1-gun-per-month rule. These measures respect Virginians’ right to bear arms while reducing gun violence.
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http://terrymcauliffe.com/investing-in-virginias-urban-centers/

In essence, what he wants is almost exactly the measures that got passed in Colorado (and faced a huge voter backlash). I'd like to say this proves they never get it, but right now, this @$$%&!? is leading in the polls. Problem is we've got the urban poor in Hampton Roads and Richmond who vote as a bloc for Democrats, and the limousine liberals around the DC area dragging the state leftward, and they're going to vote for this clown come hell or high water. There's nothing "common sense" about this legislation; it won't have any effect on crime, except maybe to drive it upward.

He's all too likely to be our next governor. We have to get the word out, and maybe, just maybe his stance on this issue, being unpopular as it is, will cost him. If you live in Virginia, start spreading the word that if McAuliffe gets in the governor's mansion, we're going to see an attempt to push Colorado style gun control laws through the legislature.
 
Sadly, we don't have any better duo of major party candidates than the nation had last November.

But there's no way I'll vote for this guy, and without even knowing this latest (got a notification earlier today from VCDL).
 
The sad reality is Virginia has slowly been turning into a blue state.
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He's not the governor yet.

If you look at the election map, you'll see that the urban areas are blue and the rest of the state is red.

We'll see if the legislature starts going wonky. Hopefully, VCDL will keep them in line.
 
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In essence, what he wants is almost exactly the measures that got passed in Colorado (and faced a huge voter backlash). I'd like to say this proves they never get it, but right now, this @$$%&!? is leading in the polls.
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Almost makes me sick to my stomach but even worse is that I know a few seemingly intelligent people that will be voting for him. :barf: This guy is quite a sleazebag, even for a politician...
 
This sort of thing increases my desire to move. I've been thinking of jumping ship on Virginia for five years now but if The Punk gets elected and somehow manages to strong arm the GA into passing this nonsense, it's going to push me into exile.

I hear the skiing is great in Montana.
 
McAuliffe makes no bones about wanting to ban "assault weapons" in Virginia. The Democratic Lt. Gov. candidate, Herring, is even worse. I get a lot of their flyers in the mail, that make this perfectly clear. I haven't received any flyers from the NRA yet.

The latest polls show McAuliffe leading Cuccinelli by about 5 percentage points. But the Libertarian candidate, Robert Sarvis, polls as high as 10%. Gun owners voting for Sarvis could well throw the election to McAuliffe. This is clearly a case in which the "perfect" is the enemy of the good.
 
There is a whole bunch of craziness going on here in this country right now. God and guns are just the thing to bring folks to the polls. It seems Virginia is in a perfect place to tell the wanna-be politician types how the citizenry of this country feel the cow needs to eat the cabbage (so to speak).

A big blow-out there, in Virginia, would send a loud and clear message to both the belt-way and the rest of the USA.

Keep your guns close and your God closer,
CC
 
I might add that the Virginia governor's race has enormous implications for the gun issue nationally. It's the first statewide election since Sandy Hook (not counting the Colorado recalls) in which gun control has been a central issue.

McAuliffe is the type who consults focus-group testing before taking any positions. (In other words, he doesn't have any core beliefs.) For him to come out hard for gun control means that he thinks it sells among suburban voters (who increasingly are the deciding group in Virginia elections).

It's too bad that Cuccinelli is such a flawed candidate in other ways.
 
This is probably the one thing that can save Cucc. Hopefully it will get enough attention between now and election day. As of right now VA is about as good a place as there is to be a gun owner and to carry it would be a tough state to lose to the gun control crowd.
 
All the more reason to move. Anyone know of a nice town in Montana? Maybe I'll take a trip there later this year.

I WILL NOT live in a state with an "assault" weapons ban. Not going to do it.

That being said, does anyone really think the General Assembly will go along with any of this nonsense? Especially with the influence of VCDL and being the home base of the NRA. Seems doubtful to me but if July 1 rolls around with Greentop's shelves looking like a NY approved store, I'm moving.
 
Also, why the hell isn't the Cuccinelli campaign/NRA making this the number one issue in this campaign? You just know if they ran 24/7 commercials attacking The Punk on gun control this would become a real contest, maybe even a rout.
 
Also, why the hell isn't the Cuccinelli campaign/NRA making this the number one issue in this campaign? You just know if they ran 24/7 commercials attacking The Punk on gun control this would become a real contest, maybe even a rout.
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So true I can't imagine too many voters west of Richmond supporting Mcauliffe if that were to happen.
 
"It's too bad that Cuccinelli is such a flawed candidate in other ways."

No kidding, I don't see how I can vote for him. Maybe I'll go fishing on election day.

Where do they get these clowns?
 
Please don't do that. Who knows how close of an election this will be? I mean, we're still ~40 days until the election. Much can and probably will happen before now and then.

Yes, Cuccinelli is a clown. We all get that. Hell, I think even the VA Republican Party almost doesn't want him to win because the of the Bill Bolling/Ken Cuccinelli feud.

BUT THAT DOESN'T MATTER.

This is a case of Candidate Bad versus Candidate Awful. If you care at all about your firearm freedom, please reconsider your choice.
 
"It's too bad that Cuccinelli is such a flawed candidate in other ways."

No kidding, I don't see how I can vote for him. Maybe I'll go fishing on election day.

Where do they get these clowns?
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Then you will have absolutely no right to complain if McAuliffe wins and starts trying to shove gun control down our throats.

As Thomas Sowell said, when asked why he would support McCain over Obama: "I prefer disaster to catastrophe." If you let best be the enemy of good, then don't complain when catastrophe is what you get.
 
Also, why the hell isn't the Cuccinelli campaign/NRA making this the number one issue in this campaign? You just know if they ran 24/7 commercials attacking The Punk on gun control this would become a real contest, maybe even a rout.
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There's a reason Cuccinelli is downplaying the gun issue. This election will be won or lost in the suburbs of Northern Virginia, and gun control is quite popular among the soccer moms here. Cuccinelli has already alienated the soccer moms (or women generally) by his stance on abortion, and guns would just make a bad situation worse with them.

That said, I'm surprised I haven't seen the usual flyers/mailings from the NRA yet. Nothing tactically wrong with micro-targeting the gun owner demographic.

But maybe -- just maybe -- the political gurus at the NRA have concluded that McAuliffe will probably win, and they don't want to be tied too much to a Cuccinelli loss. If you make Virginia a test case on gun control, and you lose, then where are you? One thing is certain -- the NRA chooses its battles carefully.
 
I don't know about that. Gun control, even in NOVA, is very unpopular. And in Tidewater, for that matter.

It seems to me that this could be the issue that could turn this election around.
 
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Then you will have absolutely no right to complain if McAuliffe wins and starts trying to shove gun control down our throats.

As Thomas Sowell said, when asked why he would support McCain over Obama: "I prefer disaster to catastrophe." If you let best be the enemy of good, then don't complain when catastrophe is what you get.
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Well...while I certainly do not want to wake up on November 6 with The Punk on the front page of the Washington Times, there would be a tremendous difficulty as things stand today should he actually try to push through his agenda.

The current General Assembly isn't going to go for this. Like at all. The problem I see is should the makeup of the GA change significantly, who knows what could happen?

Speaking honestly now, however, the House of Delegates is going to be firmly in Republican hands for at least the next two years. Most of the contests aren't even contested. Hell, the GOP might even pick up a seat or two.
 
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While Cuccinelli, has plenty faults, being a gun grabber, and a carpetbagger isn't one of them. More times then not, we don't vote for the candidate we like the most, we vote for the one who pisses us off the least.
 
Like many I am not a fan of Cuccinelli ... but ... McAuliffe is the scariest gubernatorial candidate that I have ever seen in VA.

In a sea of sleazy politicians (in which we are awash), McAuliffe manages to really stand out.

Unfortunately, since I have been casting ballots in the early '70s, I have only rarely cast one FOR a candidate at this level or above.

Time cast another Against Vote ... and then hope.
 
Support common sense gun control measures
As Governor, Terry will support mainstream and majority supported gun control measures like universal background checks, limiting the size of magazines, and a return to the 1-gun-per-month rule. These measures respect Virginians’ right to bear arms while reducing gun violence.
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What was voter turnout in the western Virginia counties in 2012?

I thought this was interesting:

West Virginia was last in the nation in voter turnout in November, the only state where less than half of eligible voters voted, according to data from the U.S. Census Bureau released in May.
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http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/socdemo/voting/

Did western Virginia voters have a similar voting pattern to West Virginia voters (ie. stayed home) in 2012?

If McAuliffe is running an ad that spotlights his gun control position, Cuccinelli might consider paying to run his ad for him.

I can think of a couple of Colorado politicians who completely misjudged the intensity of 2A support in the state.
 
This was crammed down our throats in Colorado! Trust me, it was a Bloomie/ Obama written package of stuff. Be very wary of this. I sincerely
did not think Va had gone that lib.
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