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Frankfort Arsenal...

I am a little surprised they came DOA, maybe not. I have had two Frankfort Arsenal tumblers that had a short life, a year or less of weekly use.

There are other tumblers on the market that are much better quality. I have two Berry Mfg and one Dillon that have performed well. Several retailers' private label tumbler is a Berry in a different color. Cabela's is one.

I am sure the other name brand tumblers work well but I do not have experience with them.
 
Careful with those .177 steel bbs....I tried them once and found they LOVE to get seated in primer pockets....plus, they WILL rust in a wet tumbling situation if you aren't extremely careful to clean them out, rinse them, and dry them well. SS pins are relatively cheap when you consider you'll never need to replace them (maybe 1/8# every 5 years or so to cover lost pins...)
 
I am a little surprised they came DOA, maybe not. I have had two Frankfort Arsenal tumblers that had a short life, a year or less of weekly use.

There are other tumblers on the market that are much better quality. I have two Berry Mfg and one Dillon that have performed well. Several retailers' private label tumbler is a Berry in a different color. Cabela's is one.

I am sure the other name brand tumblers work well but I do not have experience with them.
I didn't think about it till now but I wonder if they were sending me the wrong model all three times. Doesn't the European model have the same type plug on it as the US model? If so they may have been sending me the 220 unit instead of the 110 unit. I know I have a shortwave radio that has a switch on it so I can use it in Europe as well as the US.
 
After sending back three tumblers that were DOA I still do not have a tumbler.

Please tell us which tumbler you were trying to purchase and use? That sounds like a dud!

Edit sorry did not read far enough into the thread.

Not sure if you did get the wrong units or not but, Frankfort Arsenal is not known for high quality products.

I have owned a few FA products and none have lasted long enough for me to say I got any real use out of them.

If your looking for a high quality tumbler in the same price range get the Thumler Tumbler. I bought mine used on Ebay 3+ years ago and
have been heavily using it ever since without 1 single issue. Have not even replaced the belt yet.
 
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Please tell us which tumbler you were trying to purchase and use? That sounds like a dud!

Edit sorry did not read far enough into the thread.

Not sure if you did get the wrong units or not but, Frankfort Arsenal is not known for high quality products.

I have owned a few FA products and none have lasted long enough for me to say I got any real use out of them.

If your looking for a high quality tumbler in the same price range get the Thumler Tumbler. I bought mine used on Ebay 3+ years ago and
have been heavily using it ever since without 1 single issue. Have not even replaced the belt yet.
Thanks for that information. I am sure not going to try another FA vibrating tumbler even though my LGS now carries them, especially since they have jacked up the price. I paid $68 and some change for the complete kit tax included and they want $50 plus tax for just the tumbler that I can buy online for $38. No thank you.
 
Sorry I did not see that it was the vibratory type tumbler.

The new FA rotary tumbler is what I thought you were talking about. They run close to $200 which is around what a Thumler's tumbler cost.

Stainless steel media and a rotary tumbler makes short work of any dirty brass.

I know some think it is just too pricey just to clean your brass but years of buying walnut or corn media will cost just as much if not more in the long run and will never clean as well.

As long as you don't loose the media you never have to buy it again for most users.

This is how clean my brass gets.
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Sorry I did not see that it was the vibratory type tumbler.

The new FA rotary tumbler is what I thought you were talking about. They run close to $200 which is around what a Thumler's tumbler cost.

Stainless steel media and a rotary tumbler makes short work of any dirty brass.

I know some think it is just too pricey just to clean your brass but years of buying walnut or corn media will cost just as much if not more in the long run and will never clean as well.

As long as you don't loose the media you never have to buy it again for most users.

This is how clean my brass gets.

Nice shiney Taiwan 5.56 brass? I wish I could afford to spend $200 on a good tumbler. And get everything I need at once but I am disabled and on a fixed income so I have to get by with what I can afford and buy a little at a time.
 
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Sorry to hear that. I am disabled as well and also on a fixed income. Well I am trying really hard to change that.

Yes that is shiny Taiwanese 5.56 brass. It cleans up real nice but, I have not shot it yet or reloaded it a number of times to see how long it will last.

I had to save over a number of years to get my equipment except for my recent purchases like the Dillon 1050 and Giraud case trimmer. A friend of mine was kind enough to flip the bill.
 
Sorry to hear that. I am disabled as well and also on a fixed income. Well I am trying really hard to change that.

Yes that is shiny Taiwanese 5.56 brass. It cleans up real nice but, I have not shot it yet or reloaded it a number of times to see how long it will last.

I had to save over a number of years to get my equipment except for my recent purchases like the Dillon 1050 and Giraud case trimmer. A friend of mine was kind enough to flip the bill.
Sorry to hear that you too are disabled. I too am trying to do what I am able to do to fix the problems I have but I know it will be a little over a year before some of the thing will be fixed. Some things will never be able to be fixed but it would be nice to be able to get around better at least. I got into reloading about 10 months ago and have been getting things a little at a time as I saved enough to get things. It helps that since I do all the reloading for my Dad and my Brother also that they pay for their own components, length gauges, and dies. They just give me the money and I order what is needed for what they want me to load. Building a tumbler will not only save me money it will give me something to do that I enjoy. I have always enjoyed building things with my hands since I was a little kid. Built a dog house with my Dad when I was eight and I have not stopped building things since. I had wood shop and metal shop in Jr high and in high school I did welding, wood work, power and construction for all four years. I have worked in the construction industry as a carpenters helper and as a carpenter. I have worked as an auto mechanic, and did special maintenance for an aluminum and vinyl extrusion factory, welding, designing and building things they needed built from anodizing tanks, to racks to hold the metal to go in the tanks, to hammers to break down the dies, guards for their hot saws. If it they needed it and I could build it, it got built. I figure even if I have to buy four casters for the wheels I'll only be out about $9 counting tax and my time building it. It will give me a way to do ether wet or dry polishing by just switching containers and media out. I'll still need to get the media but until I save the money to buy the things I want or need for this "hobby" I have to get by with what I can do without. Right now I am trying to save enough to build me a small portable work shop that will fit on a 8x16 foot flatbed trailer. I am going to build it so it can be used as a portable blind as well. The guys on THR have been great on getting me started in the world of reloading and for that I am eternally grateful. Without them I would still be trying to save enough brass to make one run. I am lucky if I find 4 out of 5 of my spent brass with the way my 40 throws the brass and that is with a spotter trying to watch were the brass goes.
 
I have the dawn and the lemishine but don't have any simple green. Is there something else I might have around the house that will work. Lestoil is great at removing grease and stuff and I have used it to clean cases with other stuff mixed with it but I don't know if there will be any chemical reactions mixing it with the lemishine or not.
 
Dawn detergent and lemishine is all you need, or use armourall wash and wax instead of dawn. Simple green leaves the cases dirty
 
After sending back three tumblers that were DOA I still do not have a tumbler. I have been cleaning my cases with a mix of dawn, lestoil, and lemon juice but I do not like the way they are coming out so I am just going to build me a tumbler of some sort. Here is what I have here at the house that I can use. I have an old all in one printer/scanner that the belt on the scanner broke on that also doesn't work on Windows 8 so we don't use the printer part either, have a old portable printer that no longer prints ether. Nothing have good motors and roller rods I can use that still work. I have a 2# coffee can that holds 3/4 of a gallon of water, I have some 2 1/2 buckets but they are square and the 5 gallon buckets would probably be to big for the motors. Might be able to salvage a bigger motor and some wheels out of the junk pile out back but I would want to wait till it is below 55 outside to mess around in that pile. Between snakes and wasp not a good idea this time of year to be digging around that pile of junk. I bought some more dawn and picked up some limishine the other day to try it out but I do not know how much to use. So for you DIY guys and gals please school me on how I can make something out of what I have to work with that will clean and polish my brass without spending a bunch of money and trips returning DOA tumblers to the store. Oh I do have some Frankfort Arsenal brass polish that goes in dry media too but have not used it since no tumbler.
Ok: Here is something I did - I had some old range brass and needed to clean it up. I put it in a dry tumbler for about 24 hours and the results were "Lack-Luster". So, I had another idea. I put the brass in a large plastic coffee container and filled it with Diatomaceous Earth. This is powdered shells of dead sea creatures that is the equivalent of powdered glass. I put just enough water in it to make it a thick mud.

Then I took it and placed it onto my tractor and mowed the back 3 acres. After about 30 minutes I took out all brass. All the brass was packed tight with the muddy concoction of DE. So I washed it off and put it into a big bucket of water and shook it. All of the DE came out without a problem.... and the brass was clean enough to skip using the tumbler... however, I still ran it for about 30 minutes in the tumbler with rice and it came out nice and shinny.... all but 2 or 3 of them. They will take another ride later.
 
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