Need some help figuring this out....

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I have a chance to buy some reloading stuff due to an unfortunate passing of someone. The individuals just want to get rid of it. I'm trying to figure out a fair price to offer for all of it.

It includes approx 25#'s of smokeless powder, all unopened, factory sealed about 10 different powders IMR 4895/4350/4320, etc etc. About 10#'s of FFF. About 18k primers. Misc reloading equipment to include press, scale, misc bullets.

Based in today's prices, the powder and primers would be around a grand.

I don't know if this is what I should offer or offer lower. Not low ball, but something lower.

Any insight from someone that has been down this road would be greatly appreciated.

All powder and primers were kept inside the house where it's climate controlled (of course.)
 
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Hmmmm?
I don't know what would be fair either?

Selling powder & primers?

You either have to cart them off to a gun show and hope for the best?
Or run an add, and hope Charles Manson and his gang doesn't show up at your door to get your guns and kill you.

Otherwise, you have Hazmat hassles and fees to deal with if you try to sell any of it you can't use.
Which will eat any savings alive.

I'd say 30-40 % of current price is fair for the powder & primers.
With you taking the risk it is all still good!
And it is what it says it is?

Reloading Equipment?
If it's post Dinosaur era, and still being made so you can get parts and support as needed, if needed?
Maybe 40-50% of current cost if not rusty and crusty?

That's all I would offer.
Unless it was a very dear friend who needed help without charity.

rc
 
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Thanks RC.

The press is a RCBS single stage, that has some paint coming off. Doesn't appear there's any rust.

Electric primer crimp remover. RCBS powder measure.

I still haven't got any pictures yet on the brass and dies but I do know there's a good bit of brass and dies. He was an avid shooter and reloader.
 
If the "equipment" is mainly items you already have and don't need, make them a decent offer on the powder and such....around 650 or so and offer to get them the best price you can on the equipment.
 
For unopened powder I would pay $20.00 a pound. For the primers, I'd pay about $2.00 per hundred, or $20.00 per thousand. For used equipment, I normally offer about half of retail, or what Midway charges before shipping.

Hope this helps.

Fred
 
Being that they seem to be primarily interested in just getting rid of it, I would find the best current bulk deal, then subtract 40% - 50% for the powder and primers. Then work on something for the other stuff that would allow you to make a little bit by selling it off, if it includes tools you already have or don't want or need. This would save them the hassle of having to deal with people they don't know that will haggle with them, and they can get rid of it in a single sale, and be done with it.

GS
 
Pretty much my thoughts exactly as I tried to convey in post #2.

They don't want the hassle of selling it online or in the paper.
They want somebody to get it out of the house in one fell swoop.

You don't want to cheat them.
But you don't want to be stuck with a bunch of stuff you don't need either.

Meet in the middle somewhere you aren't paying too much for stuff you don't want.
And they are getting close to new dealer wholesale price, minus used equipment out of it.

rc
 
I would go with what RC said.

I have had this opportunity on a couple of occasions in the past. For powder and primers, I generally say it is worth $15 (per lb or per 1000). Make sure you can use some of the equipment though, it will be a costly investment and a bunch of your time to part what you don't want. In the end game, you can both come out of the game with a 'win' but it may be somewhat of a hassle to you. Reloaders (in my experience/part of town) prefer to buy from a store when it comes to components, thus me saying $15. They'd rather spend the few extra bucks and have it come from a store they trust, over a guy selling stuff he acquired.

I had bought a gentleman out over the summer because he had some specific items I wanted, but he made me take everything in order to get the tools and equipment I wanted. I ended up with 25lbs+ of powder and 20k+ of primers. I kept a lot of it and sold the rest. It took time to clear out the stuff I did not want.

Also.. If he is someone near and dear to you, use up the opened stuff. The gentleman that I bought off what a friend of a friend and I wasn't fond of his reloading practices. He would split powder into older bottles and tape the type of powder on the front. Some of the powder just did not look right though when examining it. (i.e. His Unique did not quite look like mine.). Instead of blowing my hands off, I disposed of all the open powders. Maybe that was a waste in some people's eyes, but to me, it wasn't worth it.

If you buy everything, you have more opportunity. Be fair but be realistic. If it is worth $2,000 and they want $1,400, but you only want $200 worth of the stuff and can only get $1,200 for the stuff you don't want, it is not worth it. You'll be stuck with the chore that they were trying to avoid. Start lower, but with a price you think is fair and not cheating your friends family over. Go from there until it is no longer worth it for you or until you can agree on a price.
 
Thanks gents!

Exactly. They basically don't want the hassle of selling everything off piece by piece.

I definitely don't plan on low balling them but definitely want a good price. There's really only one of the tools that I need, I mean want. The press I plan to give to my oldest daughter and building her a little bench. That way she has a place she can reload her own rifle ammo.

Thanks again gents.
 
My offer would be around $500-600.

Depends if you can make use of the components and press. PIA buying something and reselling it. Especially haz-mat stuff.
 
50% to 75% on the dollar max, depending on the age and usefulness of the components.

They don't want the hassel, which means they don't really care much about the price, they just want to get rid of it. Supply and demand, they don't want it and don't want to put any effort into selling it. That lowers value as well.

Pick a price you can sleep with and make the offer. It needs to be a price you can be happy with no matter if the answer is yes or no.
 
My offer would be around $500-600.



Depends if you can make use of the components and press. PIA buying something and reselling it. Especially haz-mat stuff.


There probably won't be any reselling of haz-mat stuff. Almost all the powders he used, I have loads for because I use the same powders. Which makes it nice.

About the only thing that might get sold is the cases that I don't have a firearm for, or might give me a good excuse with the wife to buy another firearm. Lol
 
50% to 75% on the dollar max, depending on the age and usefulness of the components.



They don't want the hassel, which means they don't really care much about the price, they just want to get rid of it. Supply and demand, they don't want it and don't want to put any effort into selling it. That lowers value as well.



Pick a price you can sleep with and make the offer. It needs to be a price you can be happy with no matter if the answer is yes or no.


That was the main reason for the post. Trying to figure out a good price for them and me that we can both live with. I'm pretty sure I'll end up with the stuff, just making sure I do right by them as well since there's a slight connection with family.

I really appreciate everyone's post. Gives me a starting point at least. Who knows, he may surprise me. I was told that he's going to give me a REALLY good deal.
 
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... depending on the age and usefulness of the components.

Pick a price you can sleep with and make the offer. It needs to be a price you can be happy with no matter if the answer is yes or no.
Market price of anything is what a buyer is willing to pay for it, considering all factors.

I would offer a price you are comfortable with and the seller can either accept/reject the offer or counter. When buying anything used, the buyer must factor in all aspects of the item, regardless what "claims" are made by the seller. The seller can "claim" the powders/primers were properly stored when in reality they could have been stored in hot extreme conditions which could shorten storage life. They may have been stored inside the house "after" the person bought them from someone who stored them "outside" in the heat.

With used reloading components like powder/primer, you just don't know the actual condition until you load up the components and test fire. It's good that containers are factory sealed. If any containers were opened, how can you ensure that it's really IMR 4895/4350/4320 inside the containers? We see posts of reloaders putting powder back in the wrong container on a regular basis. You could be buying good or bad and even "mixed" powders and not know it. I would make an offer based on these factors. If I was buying used powder/primers from someone I trust, I would believe their claims but from stranger I don't know, I prefer to exercise caution.
 
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Offer 80% of today's value at some standard website such as Powder Valley. Your time and effort has value and 20% is a fair value. If they want more, that may well be appropriate.

Apparently there is a bit of your heart in this and that makes it tough. If you really want the stuff, offer 100% realizing you're getting it quite easily and everybody is a winner.
 
I wouldnt feel bad offering 50% of value. You'll probably be doing them a favor. I have a feeling you are going to pay more than you should.
 
jwrowland77, got your PM.

Well, seller being close family changes things.

i am sure you can come up with a fair offer that will work for you and your family.
 
I had this opportunity a couple years back. You want to be fair in the pricing, and keep in mind that the items that you don't need have a lower intrinsic value for you, as they'll just be taking up space, you'll have to try and sell them on your own etc...

I figure $500 is a fair price for everything. That gives them a fair price on the powerder and primers, while giving them a bit lower price for the "stuff" you don't really need/want...

Sounds like they're close family, in that case maybe offer them an extra $100 - $150 to help them out if they're in need... if they're not in "need" stick with the $500...

Mike B
 
500 sounds fair to me too. You probably do not use all of the powder types, so you are taking stuff you can't use, I bet they don't want a bunch of people coming over to look through it and cherry pick it either. You could get it for that and sell off the equipment on ebay etc. and give them a cut of that...
 
I will take the brass just let me know what you got. I'll make a fair offer. I'm always looking for brass.
 
I bet they don't want a bunch of people coming over to look through it and cherry pick it either

Definitely. I think theyll be thrilled that Jwrow took it off their hands all at once.

I will take the brass just let me know what you got.

For real, I'd like to get at some of those primers.
 
Another thing to take into consideration is the volume involved and how much you reload. Do you want to have $600 or more tied up in supplies sitting idle that may take you many years before you have any need for it?
 
Another thing to take into consideration is the volume involved and how much you reload. Do you want to have $600 or more tied up in supplies sitting idle that may take you many years before you have any need for it?


I load a lot of rifle. Most the powders and primers are for rifle. They probably won't sit around but maybe a year.
 
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