Ruger Precision Rifle: Which caliber to choose?

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Zaydok Allen

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Friends and neighbors,

I could use some advice. The recent introduction of the Ruger Precision Rifle has me suddenly thinking about a bolt gun. I don't currently own a bolt action rifle at all, and frankly, I don't actually need one. However I have wanted to get into longer range shooting for quite awhile. (Gotta have hobbies.) I just haven't had the money to buy the equipment I wanted though. I want a long range, heavy rifle to mitigate recoil, that I can plug a target with at 500+ yards.

Now, I realize there are a lot of rifles capable of doing this, but this is the gun I want, particularly because of the price point, and the included features. I also like the AR styling as it lends to accessorizing..... not that you really need more than a bipod and scope though.

Here's the thing. As far as range, and ballistics coefficients go, the 6.5 Creedmoor offering seems to offer the longest range and potential accuracy.

I favor that round due to the heavier bullet weights also over the 243, as I may want to kill a deer with this gun at some point. I know the 243 is plenty capable of plugging a deer also, but I just like having a little extra weight on the bullet.

I believe 308 is going to be easier to find in stores, is going to open up the world of elk to me, looks to be a cheaper round to shoot as it is so available, and may be easier to reload? I don't reload yet, but I am hoping to get into it next year.

Shots would very rarely be over 500 yards as I live in a very hilly area with few places that longer range shooting would ever need or could take place. I don't hunt at the current time, but that may be changing soon. Varmints are not a concern, and if they were I could plug them with my 357 mag revolvers.

I do already have a rifle capable of taking dear or elk, but it isn't a gun that extended range sessions are fun with, as it kicks pretty dang hard.

So which chambering would you guys/gals recommend given my wants and needs. Ammo cost and availability are big factors. There is potential to head out to the plains to take some longer shots over 500 yards, but that is going to be very seldom if ever. Killing deer is a must have, elk would be nice too.

I am mostly a pistol shooter and don't see owning more than this one bolt gun. So what is your recommendation.
 
Sounds like .308 to me. I say that based on your target game. All three calibers the rifle is chambered in will do excellent at range, obviously the bigger bullets will buck the wind better.

I had originally thought I wanted the .243, this based on my wife hating recoil, and ammo availability. However I'm leaning towards the Creedmoor now. I love the 6.5mm bullets for their high BC and relatively low recoil. I'm having an internal struggle going with the Creedmoor as I'm also a huge fan of .260 and feel like I'm giving in to the dark side. However, more and more companies are jumping on the Creedmoor bandwagon with rifles so it might not be "just a fad". Pretty much every load for the 6.5 is Match/Target oriented.
 
I suspect you'll be able to get the 243 for less than the 6.5 Creedmoor (like $200 less). I just did a comparison between 6.5 CM and 243 Win. using the JBM online calculator.

6.5 Creedmoor 140 gr Berger VLD at 2800 fps
v.
243 Winchester 115 Berger VLD at 2950 fps

243 has ~20 inches less drop at 1k yards. Wind drift is about dead even. Nothing magical about 6.5mm. 6mm has good bullet too.

I am leaning towards 243 Winchester for paper punching.
 
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If you opt for the 6.5 Creedmoor, buy as much brass as you can afford when you buy the rifle. Marketing departments are well known for discontinuing stuff with zero regard for existing customers.
The .243 is not a 1,000 yard cartridge with any bullet. The .308 is for target shooting. 500 is too far for any of 'em for hunting shots.
 
The .308 is a little on the light side for elk or bigger game. Why not
go to the 7MM Magnum. It doesn't kick that much and has a real edge
in killing power over the lowly .308.

Zeke
 
The .308 is for target shooting. 500 is too far for any of 'em for hunting shots.

I agree. I would never take a 500 yard shot at any animal. 500 yards is about the max I see myself being able to shoot at paper, or steel, in my location.
 
The rifle only comes in three calibers, 308, 243, and 6.5 Creedmoor not 7mm mag zb338...

I'm personally ordering a 6.5 Creedmoor RPR tomorrow. As far as ammo availability. Its out there and available averaging about $35 a box. Buy it over time and keep your brass every time you shoot and then start reloading it once you've stocked enough brass.
 
The .308 is a little on the light side for elk or bigger game. Why not
go to the 7MM Magnum. It doesn't kick that much and has a real edge
in killing power over the lowly .308.

Zeke

I disagree that the 308 is too small for elk. There are plenty of folks here who take them with a 30-06, and 308, and even 270, and those cartridges drop them in their tracks pretty regularly. If they do run, it isn't far. That's based on the words of several local hunters.

The idea of killing elk though is relatively a small concern for me. I have a Ruger No. 1 in S&W 460 magnum, which can launch a 200 gr bullet at about 2900 fps (from what I've read, I need a chrony), and can go up to a 360 gr loading in Buffalo Bore ammo. It kicks the shoulder dang hard, but I imagine it will hit any animal like a sledge hammer.

Also, the rifle set up I'm discussing doesn't come in 7mm. And finally, long range target shooting is really a bigger desire of mine than hitting animals.
 
Not hard at all Kodiak, all three of these rounds are easy to reload. The dies are readily available. Now reloading for 308 will be easiest in my opinion, more components will be available. If you go 6.5, there's a wealth of knowledge on this forum
http://www.65creedmoor.com/

The hardest thing about reloading is chasing components :D its really easy and a great hobby. I feel like a mad scientist sometimes when I'm making rounds.
 
243 Winchester 115 Berger VLD at 2950 fps

That bullet is only marginally stable in the 1:7.7" twist of the RPR. It might work, but one of the Berger 105's or the 108's might be better though, especially if you are thinking of 1000 yards.

The .243 is not a 1,000 yard cartridge with any bullet.

Not sure why that would be. Depending on your goals, of course, there are better choices. But F-Class shooters use 6mmBR and 6mm Dasher for 1000 yard shooting. Both of those will launch the same bullets as the .243 Win will and at similar velocities. Both have more efficient case designs, but if the point is to shoot informally at 1000 yards, the .243 Win in the right rifle with a fast twist can work just fine.
 
.308 seems the answer to me. Breaking into a new caliber is a stiff proposition in my book, and since there is already the M&P10 and an M1A in the lock up I'm finding it especially hard to fall for smaller bore rifles at this time.
The availability of .30 caliber bullets in myriad weights tends toward experimentation that could likely entertain me to my grave. (And at the grand ole' of 53 summers tomorrow I'd like to think that old mouldy is pretty far off.)
There is a distinct temptation to put this one off until Ruger produces these in a long cartridge format while keeping on the lookout for that No.1 that I've been pining 4 fer' so long.
Oh, let's see, a 7x57 ,maybe 7 Mag. with a Circassian walnut stock in need of a new home out there? Yoo-hoo....
 
So is Ruger really building a "precision" rifle now? What does that say for all the stuff they have produced over the years? I gave up on them years ago.
 
If you opt for the 6.5 Creedmoor, buy as much brass as you can afford when you buy the rifle. Marketing departments are well known for discontinuing stuff with zero regard for existing customers.
The .243 is not a 1,000 yard cartridge with any bullet. The .308 is for target shooting. 500 is too far for any of 'em for hunting shots.
the 243 is actually quite a good 1000 yd cartridge. I've had no problems with 308 to 1100 actually. Are there better options if you want to win competitions? Of course there are. But if you are a just a hobbyist and want to ring a 20" steel plate at 1000, either of them will do it very economically. Heck many folks do it with a 223.
 
I believe 308 is going to be easier to find in stores, is going to open up the world of elk to me, looks to be a cheaper round to shoot as it is so available
I would drop elk hunting as a consideration when purchasing a Ruger Precision Rifle.

Get an iron bar -- you can find them in any tractor store -- that weighs as much as the Ruger Precision Rifle and carry it up a typical Colorado mountain above 11,000 feet and down the other side, and you'll see what I mean.
 
Given your use, I'd suggest the .308 as well.
That is what I've been leaning towards. It seems a better overall fit for me, but the 6.5 still has me wondering. I don't, and have no intention of competing. So maybe the 308 is the best choice.
 
So is Ruger really building a "precision" rifle now? What does that say for all the stuff they have produced over the years? I gave up on them years ago.

All of my Ruger guns are great...and accurate. My Security Six is the most accurate handgun I own. If you gave up on them..why bother opening a thread about them just to post that?
 
I would drop elk hunting as a consideration when purchasing a Ruger Precision Rifle.

Get an iron bar -- you can find them in any tractor store -- that weighs as much as the Ruger Precision Rifle and carry it up a typical Colorado mountain above 11,000 feet and down the other side, and you'll see what I mean.

That is a good point Vern, but I am relatively unconcerned about the weight.

Elk are prolific anywhere around my home. I live at 5400 feet and work at over 7000 feet. I'm fortunate to be a forester and silviculturist by trade, so I spend my days working in and around large elk herds on a daily basis. They actually have gotten so used to me that I had two large 6x6 bulls pretty well trained not to run when they see my truck or me on foot. It would be very unlikely that I'd have to hump the gun around all day.

And if I did, I may be tired at the end of the day, but that's alright. I'm 34, lift weights regularly, and recreationally hike 16+ miles in a day at over 7000 feet, with a 25 lb pack on my back. In the hands, or slung, I doubt I'd have to carry the gun far anyway. Elk retrieval is allowed with ATV's here too.

If I was going to hunt Colorado, I wouldn't even consider the RPR as an option, because you are absolutely right. I'd use my Ruger No. 1.
 
All of my Ruger guns are great...and accurate. My Security Six is the most accurate handgun I own. If you gave up on them..why bother opening a thread about them just to post that?
He didn't start the thread.
 
460Kodiak said:
Elk are prolific anywhere around my home. I live at 5400 feet and work at over 7000 feet. I'm fortunate to be a forester and silviculturist by trade, so I spend my days working in and around large elk herds on a daily basis. They actually have gotten so used to me that I had two large 6x6 bulls pretty well trained not to run when they see my truck or me on foot. It would be very unlikely that I'd have to hump the gun around all day.


Heck, you also wouldn't have to worry about the weight of the rifle because I volunteer to come haul it around for you. :D


460Kodiak said:
the 6.5 still has me wondering. I don't, and have no intention of competing. So maybe the 308 is the best choice.

I don't think you'd be disappointed with the 6.5CM (it's accurate and offers a bit less recoil). Right now, I'm a fan of the .260rem (the ballistic twin of the 6.5CM), and would personally choose either of these over the .308. The thing is, though, there are just so much more .308 ammo choices available, and it's been around long enough that standard .308 match loads have pretty much been worked out. With a little research, you have a pretty good chance of putting some really accurate .308 loads together without much experimentation when you start reloading.

And the .308 is probably the better choice for elk as well.
 
He didn't start the thread.

I believe he meant "opening" as in clicking on the thread.... For the purposes of posting snark.

I've been trying not to look too much at the RPR because it calls to me, and I really don't need to buy another rifle right now. That said, if I wind up with one, I'd probably lean towards the 6.5 CM, which oddly enough is the only cartridge of the 3 I don't already load. I've been reading great things about the 6.5 CM for a couple years now, and the curiosity is just starting to get the best of me. It doesn't hurt that I already have a Tikka CTR in .308 and can't really justify another rifle in the same caliber to fill the exact same role. On the other hand, the .308 is an imminently practical round for sub 600 yd target shooting and there are good target loads available off the shelf for both rounds.
 
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