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Hellcat +1 for just plain CCW simplicity/safety/surety.

Has anyone actually seen/heard of an ND with the M17/18 ?

Is it rugged? Is it simple? Is it light? Is it carriable? (with the smaller magazine) Is the trigger any good? Does it fit the shooter? Does it take sights./scopes easily? Is the cost reasonable? Is it reliable? ... and is it accurate? Other than that.... ;)

Yes.... don't worry `bout it. Surprisingly -- as the brass ages/discolors w/ firing -- it will reappear. :thumbup:

Ditto same S&W Model 60 3" 357Mag as Post #33 above This time using just-cast/coated/loaded Lym 358156 LSWC (Ray Thompson's 38/357 Keith) (Note Pressure typo in image. Should 20,066 psi) Reduced to a 2" barrel (2.5 effective): 753 fps

The Lee 358-158 has a nose that's much too short/shank much too long. Requires an OAL of 1.365 for crimp grove. Casting up some Lyman 356156 LSWC now . . . . (real old Single Cav Mould in the woodpile)

The Lyman 358665 has roughly the same shank length inside the case as a Keith-type SWC. But I'll cast up some actual Keiths this evening just for the heck of it.

Ran, Loaded & fired effectively duplicate 38 Special combination this afternoon in: S&W Model 60 3" 357 Mag revolver Set QL to 3.5" to accommodate actual rifled-barrel bullet travel, and offset cylinder gap Ran 5.0gr VN-340 (RCBS ChargeMaster Supr), used LABRADAR for velocity Dead nuts on...

Take a look again at https://www.vihtavuori.com/reloading-data/handgun-reloading/?cartridge=41 Are you running a jacketed/plated SWC, or a cast lead SWC? (and what was your OAL ? )

Out of Curiosity.... What is the Canadian rule of checking the chamber ?

As noted above, put the gas check on to protect the smaller GC shank edges left exposed/unsealed

OOC . . . what is that ? :thumbdown:

I could see a foreshortened case happening on firing IF . . . - The case/chamber was slick/lubed to where it didn't lock itself at front - The load was insufficient to blow the shoulder fully forward, but rather only expand the body (a delicate dance to be sure) But then I would merely size...

You can cut through the top/down into the side right at the pop top hole. Then just turn 90 degrees and cut the top off. No problemmo. :cool: (or just stab through the side -- and finish cutting the top off with the scissors) :evil:

Plain old pair of scissors.

Kinda impractical across the board.... https://www.theboxotruth.com/threads/the-box-o-truth-33-rock-salt-in-a-shotgun.357/ https://www.ammoman.com/blog/rock-salt-shotgun-shells/ https://www.quora.com/What-happens-if-someone-get-shot-with-a-rock-salt-shotgun-shell-in-close-range

Powder Coating (the baked-on kind) is its own lube. Save in extraordinary circumstances, no sizing lube req'd using Lee sizers

They're fine to shoot. No problemmo :thumbup:

Don't I wish . . . .:mad:🤯

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