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God I hate politics. Not politics all together but rather it's application in this country in general.

Does anyone know when this will be presented to the Governor for final approval?

Again maybe carbine isn't the right word. I'm asking about very small guns that shoot with one hand but are one step up from pistols in magazine capacity.

I was thinking along the lines of an uzi style 45, or semi-auto mp5. Also over penetration would be an issue to worry about. The the reason I say inside the car is because I live in a state with castle doctrine laws. The laws apply to anyone trying to forcefully enter your home, occupied...

I think mini 14 and AR-15 are too big to use for self defense INSIDE a car. Also I've found a pistol grip shotgun to have too much recoil. I'm leaning more towards a small semi-auto rifle that shoots a large pistol round. On another note what do you guys think of the .410 shotgun shell for...

I'm wondering what you guys think the best small carbine or rifle is? It's looking like concealed carry of any gun without a permit will be legal where I live soon. So I'd like to get a gun to keep in my car. It doesn't have to be small enough to conceal on your body but I would like it to be...

Any one who has obsessively played multi-player shooter games knows the "dinner principal" is garbage. Don't laugh, I'm serious, while playing online shooters doesn't help with your aim they will help with your tactics. If there are several attackers you don't expose yourself and try to shoot...

Definitely right that if people can carry openly without training, Whats the difference letting them untuck their shirts and cover the gun? Openly carrying a gun seems more dangerous than concealing it, as it advertises the fact that you're packing and will make you stand out in any crowd...

@Zongster Thanks for the really informative post. You obviously know your stuff. As for the legal way to transport your guns, does putting them in the trunk count? I go shooting in the desert and I take all my guns (some in the cases they came with, others not in cases) unloaded, in the...

I too think it would be a good idea. Since just about everyone here owns at least one gun and criminals don't care if they have a permit or not. With more and more people carrying it would make crime more and more dangerous for the criminals. I don't think it's going to make things more...

For those of you who don't know there is a bill in Arizona that would make it legal for any U.S. citizen, over 21, who legally owns a gun to carry it concealed WITHOUT any permit. The law has been given preliminary approval. Here is an article on it...

I'm going to have to disagree with everything you're saying here. Granted your experiences with your own bandoleer may have been different, but with the one I got the shells stay in place perfectly. I can swing the bandoleer around like a helicopter and still not looses shells. I find it far...

Update: I went out shooting last weekend and tried out the pistol grip on the shotgun. You guys were right the recoil on the pistol grip is too much. I mean I can and did shoot many clips from it, but it just made my hand hurt at the end of the day. I've put the buttstock, and extra recoil pad...

Just out of curiosity how is the P90 on recoil? Is the recoil great enough to slow down follow up shots? Same question with the semi-auto Uzis in 45 acp.

Desert Eagles are nice but I want to get a small 2 handed gun this time. Well at least small as far as 2 handed guns go.

The major advantage of a F2000 is it's rate of fire. But since I'm getting a semi-auto gun that won't be a factor. I like the other 3 choices since they are way cool looking, are heavy on the intimidation factor, and should an attacker not be intimidated they are extremely deadly personal...

Also, the UZI is awesome too. Now I'm torn between the Steyr Aug, P90 SBR, or Uzi. I guess what will decide which one I go with in the end will be the price of the guns, and the price of the ammo.

That SBR conversion for a PS90 is cool but also pricey. How is the p90 on ammo cost?

Do you know where I can get a short barred p90? I would get one but the only semi-auto variants I saw had long barrels sticking out. I would like to get a semi-auto p90 if I can find one where they barrel only sticks out a little from the rest of the gun like with the full auto p90's.

Now that gun I like. I already have a gun that shoots 223/5.56 so I wouldn't have to buy new types of ammo. I like that it has a forend grip, and with the bull pup design you get better accuracy without increasing the overall length of rifle. Does it also accept standard AR-15/M16 mags? If it...