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    Illegal concealed carry in Illinois

    . . . The Supreme Court has ruled that law enforcement has no duty to protect any individual but only serve as a generalized barrier to crime. There may be a crack in that decision! Perhaps some legislation from the feds that would cover the willingness of an individual to protect...
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    Illegal concealed carry in Illinois

    From the "Been there-Done that" file you can read post #50 in this thread.
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    Illegal concealed carry in Illinois

    I don't think that Judy Baar-Topinka would sign a CCW bill even if it got passed by the assembly and we will not get one passed with an assembly that looks anything like the one we have now. However, we do have some Democrats that are serving in conservative districts and I just wonder if we...
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    Illegal concealed carry in Illinois

    Yes, there is a difference between Illinois residents and out-of-state visitors--only because people from other states can not, as a rule, have a FOID card. Therefore, in order to be legal as a visitor from another state, a person with a firearm would have to go to those exceptions that do NOT...
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    Illegal concealed carry in Illinois

    It seems that our argument is in essence "a distinction without a difference." It seems that we have independently tried to solve this problem. There should be a ruling by the AG. I think the problem is that the ruling would not be of the liking of the AG if it were made with strict legal...
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    Illegal concealed carry in Illinois

    As I said, I did not intend to start a fight with you. If I made assumptions that were not appropriate, I apologize. I guess, that my argument is with the LEO's and prosecutors that have a problem with their reading skillls. They don't have to like it, but it says what it says. Failing to...
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    Illegal concealed carry in Illinois

    What they did or did not envision is not my problem. (I still think some just choose not to envision in order to get the bill passed, but I digress.) The law is the law. Even police officers and states attorneys can not make up the law to suit their own preferences. Like you, I spent some...
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    Illegal concealed carry in Illinois

    ISP2605, I am sure that you have been involved with this subject for a long time. Even I can figure out what your duties were in "your past life". But the legislators were discussing cases and containers. And they were discussing the legality of being able to walk down the street with the...
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    Illegal concealed carry in Illinois

    This is not the first time that I have heard of this type of situation. I am dumbfounded! It is like we are living in a "parallel universe". Known "bad guys" doing everything wrong (illegal) and there is officer and prosecutorial discretion all over the place. Then you get a guy like John...
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    Illegal concealed carry in Illinois

    Originally posted by ISP2605 I have read your posts ISP and they are very reasoned and you have given some very good advice. The quote of one of your posts above, though, is just wrong. In the appeals case People vs Brunner the court actually included in the decision a portion of the...
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    Friend of family arrested

    I AM NOT AN ATTORNEY AND I AM NOT OFFERING LEGAL ADVICE!! There is so much wrong with what this guy did that there is going to be a severe spanking. #1 A courthouse is a resticted place and there is almost no affirmative defense. I think it is only a misdemenor and might be a good thing to...
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    Since my response got stifled.......(for civilians only)

    I don't find the desire to debate on forums but I do find them interesting and informative. I occasionally post to put forward news or information that might not otherwise be known, but today my post is to simply give support to CCW. He gets off the mark occasionally but his detractors...
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    IL--Don't Prosecute Bob Buttrum for Catching a Thief!

    Don, I am not challenging your opinion, but could you give us some of the details of why you have come to this conclusion? I live in Mt. Vernon and have talked with Mr. Duncan on occasion about the state of gun laws in Illinois particularly after the prosecution on Vana Haggerty and he has been...
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    IL--Don't Prosecute Bob Buttrum for Catching a Thief!

    When the rules become more important than the vice that they were supposed to remedy, the rules themselves become the vice. It seems that we only have "law enforcement officers" today. In years gone by we had "peace officers". I don't know to which mob the above quote is referring. As I...
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    IL--Don't Prosecute Bob Buttrum for Catching a Thief!

    The headline in the Morning Sentinel this morning stated that "Gun Owner Will Not Be Prosecuted."
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