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Neither. It's a tactical/fightin' carbine. Buy a good one that can hold up well. I don't see a point of getting a shoddy gun when other choices are better, and not that much more. Join M4Carbine.net for good info.

Hard choice. The gibbs is a big ole cartridge with a case head to match = not much meat left on the bolt face rim. If you ever drop that bolt... The Jeffreys is hard to make feed with a staggered mag I hear. Something about the rebated rim. I'd personally go for a 500 A-Square...

Really?! There are people who've put them on big african caliber bolt guns with good results!

+1. If I can't afford one of the newer HK's.

How much are police trade in glocks in 9mm? I'd buy one of those for that much.

Very true. They aren't ugly at all.

For a quality weapon one can depend his/her life on, what's expensive? Wonder how long people saved up two hundred years ago for a good weapon? Kinda makes me think the view on weapons have changed from saving up for an important necessity/tool back then, and to now, where people just...

Seriously, most people just complain because the front strap area feels blockier compared to their favorite pistols.

Any 1911 from a quality maker with: No front cocking serrations No billboard lettering Not dehorned to hell with that soap bar look. No wrap around rubber and/or punisher grips A single color theme on slide and frame, no two tone for me Given to me as a gift :cool:

I really think they are great! Practically disappear IWB. I just take my g19 out of its bladetech holster and simply put the little g26 in its place. Fits well. I'm really digging the warren tactical 3 dot sights on it. Incomparably better than the crude plastic glock sights with the...

Glock 17 or possibly one of the HK's. Must resist... http://pistol-training.com/archives/3367

Can you take a pic of it with a shoe worn over butt pad? :D JK, looks awesome. Needs an aimpoint!

I'd prefer a decent AK. Mini-14's don't seem to do well in high round count classes. I'd take a good AR with a nice red dot over both.

lol Don't even get me started on the "Chest and Bi's" guys and gym rats that joooice. Why can't people be modest and humble, only lifting so they can more effectively destroy others? Can they not walk about robed and mysterious with a hidden power that baffles the common man?! :p

Fitness is often neglected in the gun-crowd. I dunno why. IMO people are lot more likely to die from heart/weight problems than gunfights. Perhaps handling and talking about guns is easy compared to conditioning your body. Like, "I r also a warroir, without bustin' a sweat! :cool:"...

Sure, in an ankle holster with purple cargo shorts.

With glocks I stick to 9mm models exclusively. They are the most durable and problem free in this cal.

I'm kinda glad they don't have a choice. Many options can be A LOT worse than current issued weapons IMO. :uhoh:

Tell them to bring back the blued 5.5" redhawks. :(