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thanks. I am looking at the 450 Bush for a light, "carbine like" AR deer gun. I have traditionally used shotgun, then 44 lever action ruger, just looking for something with more range than 44 and significantly ighter than my 1187.

what about 450 Bushmaster. With 2012 rules of increase case length it comes into play. Any thoughts?

I have been using a combination of rifled shotguns for 15+ years deer hunting in Indiana. Several years ago we legalized certain cartridges for a rifle. Since then I have been trying .44 lever action rifle but have recently donnated it to my old man! I am considering an AR15 - 458 Socom to...