I've shot them. The first outing I used the max oal given in the speer manual, forgot what it was, with 60.3gr, 60.8, 61.3, 61.8, 62.3 and 62.8 charges, four shots a piece, they shot alright, the higher grain loads had the better groupings, The second outing I used 2.667" oal from ogive, at the...